December Balance Preview

Jump back to quoted post2 Nov 2017, 18:19 PMcome on let's go

What ?

Battle Phase 2 costs increased from 100MP/45FU to 200MP/90FU

Jump back to quoted post2 Nov 2017, 19:05 PMLuke_512

Won't this mess up with assault grenadiers a bit too much as they need battle phase 2 for their grenades pretty early on?

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2017, 18:54 PMjagd wölfe

Sorry if I don't clap to the shitposting
1) it's not that mg's are "CRAZY HURR DURR", the mg's are THE ONLY AI panther has, while Comet can ACTUALLY deal with infantry.
Addiotionally you need to PAY munitions for that dps, while the mg dps is minimal compared to other mg dps (like 50cal pintle or t34 mg's).
And all mg's need to face target to inflict the dps (that get mostly negated by craters at this stage of the game).

Jump back to quoted post2 Nov 2017, 19:31 PMElSlayer

Here a vid from far 2015. I believe both tanks didn't changed much in AI department.

Jump back to quoted post2 Nov 2017, 19:40 PMMr.Smith

Comet got serious nerfs in the AI department since then. Gun range, gun scatter and, of course, crush.

Jump back to quoted post2 Nov 2017, 19:31 PMElSlayer

Here a vid from far 2015. I believe both tanks didn't changed much in AI department.

Watch for kill count.

Jump back to quoted post2 Nov 2017, 15:09 PMblvckdream

Btw..Why no changes to Panzerfüsiliers?

Jump back to quoted post2 Nov 2017, 20:23 PMzerocoh

Rule #1 on coh2 is that allies can't have anything fun.

I can't believe it took this long to fix the demo trick.

RIP 1 shotting panthers and Flaktrucks ;_;

Jump back to quoted post2 Nov 2017, 07:36 AMullumulu

with the argue that 2 stugs better than 1 allie TD...why can sovjets build a Su85? their Su76 are better TDs than stugs..and better vs infantery...and bombarding..and are cheaper.


if we follow your stug argue...the Su85 is useless..cause the sovjet can spam su76..and all is ok.


Remember: OST has no nondoc TD with can deal with the 60 range allie TDs in teamgames...if there are 2-3 Allie TD...u cant do nothing as Ost player...all tanks will explodes in secounds...

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2017, 23:31 PMBrutusHR

How about removing mg upgrade from panther?
I mean seriously, nobody is going for panther to deal anything else except armor.
And it will remove that BS excuse for calling panther a generalist tank. And then they can improve him to be a better tank hunter. When that is going to be his only job, to hunt tanks.

Jump back to quoted post2 Nov 2017, 21:28 PMjagd wölfe

It's a nice lab but
1) keep infantry in cover, because without aoe main gun that crush walls and sundbags such mg dps will be mostly negated by cover, while bunched covered models get damaged even harder by comet main gun.
2) move the tank, all mg's will lose dps, but comet will lose less dps due to having a main gun as ai source
3) you spent 60 muni for a pintle, unless the pintle becomes free, (and I don't see panther giving any trouble without it) panther isn't a generalist, or better say that, it's performances in at (balanced by cost) shouldn't depend on ai (balanced by a muni upgrade).

If you think panther pintle is an issue remove it, nobody needs ai dps at that stage of the game, players need a proper tank hunter.

Jump back to quoted post2 Nov 2017, 22:22 PMCardboard Tank

Why don't we delete Breakthrough doctrine from the game right away? I want to see the person that still considers the Jagdtiger now.

Horrible changes. Even Imperial Dane is irritated by the OKW and especially the Ostheer Panther nerfs. A shame that biased patchmakers can change the game to fit their needs. I trust a guy who casts Coh games for more than 5 years on a daily basis way more than some patchmakers who have even voiced their will to make Allied lategame superior on this forum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytrM3BMUgQk

Strangely the Stuka needs a nerf, the demo doesn't.

Emplacement cancer isn't adressed.

Obivously a biased patch.

Jump back to quoted post2 Nov 2017, 23:17 PMvasa1719

You spend 60 amo for late tank (taht is not problem, lets image that you need pay for gun for luchs ? that will be some problem), that mean, not, how many its cost, but did you have access for it. Axis have, soviet dont have, USF dont have.
So when you play 2v2 on reils and metal in late game you see many green covers ? i dont think so, maybe only brits trench. Coz in that time are heavy pushing with tanks, infatry, arty, adn green cover will be EZ counter. You can see more wave battles.
Can somobody make same video test in this patch ?

Jump back to quoted post2 Nov 2017, 23:23 PMvasa1719

Dane cry about every axis nerf like he lose his legions in Tevteburg forrest.