T34 and RAM
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Munis i agree but not on fuel
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I dont buy the t34s are expensive at all jinseual. Soviet players almost never lack fuel. how many times have we seena magic su-85 appear when the soviet player was losing
soviet players almost never lacks of fuel though the fuel income and tech upgrade for both side are equally the same?
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soviet players almost never lacks of fuel though the fuel income and tech upgrade for both side are equally the same?
The soviets need fuel just as much as the germans, maybe more since their tanks are weaker, easily destroyed, and only effective in numbers.
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The soviets need fuel just as much as the germans, maybe more since their tanks are weaker, easily destroyed, and only effective in numbers.
I put a question mark there
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doesnt the t34 cost something like 90 fuel? p4 is 115, panther 165. Not sure how 90 fuel is expensive
t34 cost 95 fuel, panzer IV 115 fuel, t34 is only less than half as useful as a panzer IV with only 80 pct of the cost.
you can make 6 t34s for 5 panzer IVs, yet the 5 panzer IVs will dominate the t34s unless the t34s rammed, but that would just leave one t34 just knocking on the bolts.
t34s should be cheaper and rammed needs to be nerfed, because ramming encourages bad gameplay where players would constantly ram their tanks as if the lives of their tankers mean nothing and unit preservation is a joke.
i hope relic would make the changes for the t34 because soviet union built almost more t34s than all the german tanks combined + the germans were fighting in two fronts so that's alot less german tanks in the eastern front, i want to see this massed produced item appear a lot more in this game.
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Its absolutely devastating against infantry and with ram can make any German player scream his head off when his 260 fuel elephant/tiger is rendered useless in one click.
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the fact is they have to be very careful in buffing the T34. It's never meant to go 1 v 1 with a pz4 despite what some of the russian fanboys want (there is a reason why its 30 fuel cheaper).It has pretty decent armor too.
Its absolutely devastating against infantry and with ram can make any German player scream his head off when his 260 fuel elephant/tiger is rendered useless in one click.
115 - 95 = 20 fuel cheaper.
And at the current state, without Ram 2 T34's can happily lose to 1 Panzer 4 due to the sheer pathetic penetration on the T34.
T34's don't need to go 1v1 with a Panzer 4, however they need to be able to inflict some moderate damage, at the moment it's pathetic and a Panzer has similar Anti Infantry abilities.
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115 - 95 = 20 fuel cheaper.
And at the current state, without Ram 2 T34's can happily lose to 1 Panzer 4 due to the sheer pathetic penetration on the T34.
T34's don't need to go 1v1 with a Panzer 4, however they need to be able to inflict some moderate damage, at the moment it's pathetic and a Panzer has similar Anti Infantry abilities.
my bad for the typo meant to say 20 fuel.
2X T34's can still beat 1 X PZ4. Its not like both will be facing the panzer 4's front armor. At least one will be hitting his rear and if that does not work ... RAM. So 2X T34's vs 1 PZ4 = without any doubt is a win for T34.
Yes I agree that T34 needs a slight buff AT wise but it has to be balanced because of Ram.
Anti infantry power of T34 is much better than PZ4 post patch. PZ4 now hardly makes a dent not to mention T34 faces 4 man squads vs 6 for PZ4 in addition to T34 having much better scatter resulting in superior anti infantry.
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Permanently BannedPanzer has similar Anti Infantry abilities.
Utterly false.
T34s infantry dmg is MUCH better than PIVs, even with PIV MG upgrade.
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This would help for more stug play. The stug could still out gun it, as long as it didn't get flanked.
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my bad for the typo meant to say 20 fuel.
2X T34's can still beat 1 X PZ4. Its not like both will be facing the panzer 4's front armor. At least one will be hitting his rear and if that does not work ... RAM. So 2X T34's vs 1 PZ4 = without any doubt is a win for T34.
Yes I agree that T34 needs a slight buff AT wise but it has to be balanced because of Ram.
Anti infantry power of T34 is much better than PZ4 post patch. PZ4 now hardly makes a dent not to mention T34 faces 4 man squads vs 6 for PZ4 in addition to T34 having much better scatter resulting in superior anti infantry.
That's the way it should be but the truth is a PZ4 does double the damage and will always penetrate. It will finish off 1 t34 at about half health and then turn to face the other and the t34 wont be able to get through the front armor and will die too. It has happened to me.
Not to mention a flanking manuever is hard to pull off and will most likely put the t34 into a bad situation, which will atleast end with a faust into the flanking t34.
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Utterly false.
T34s infantry dmg is MUCH better than PIVs, even with PIV MG upgrade.
how much damage do the MG upgrades do on the tanks? Are they equal to say one panzer grenadier or less?
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