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18 Aug 2017, 15:52 PM
#1
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Great range with no missing accuracy how do i counter that shit even when mortar pit got nerfed?
18 Aug 2017, 17:17 PM
#2
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Great range with no missing accuracy how do i counter that shit even when mortar pit got nerfed?


Pls when you read the Patchnotes, then read them complete!

ISG got nerfed as well. Since 1.0 already in FBP.

Or even better: Play the FBP :) Then you would see how strong isg are vs maxims for example :)
18 Aug 2017, 18:31 PM
#3
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Great range with no missing accuracy how do i counter that shit even when mortar pit got nerfed?


What factions you playing and in what game mode?

And like Sturm panther stated there is a mod right now testing all sorts of changes to the game. If you are talking about that then it's a whole other game to answer.

But if you're playing the live game and are struggling against isgs, check out the strategy forums on this site as the ISG has been a constant issue with each iteration it goes through.
18 Aug 2017, 19:13 PM
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What factions you playing and in what game mode?

And like Sturm panther stated there is a mod right now testing all sorts of changes to the game. If you are talking about that then it's a whole other game to answer.

But if you're playing the live game and are struggling against isgs, check out the strategy forums on this site as the ISG has been a constant issue with each iteration it goes through.


5 bucks says they're gonna add the GrW 34 to the OKW as well LMAO.
18 Aug 2017, 19:52 PM
#5
avatar of BrickTop

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Pls when you read the Patchnotes, then read them complete!

ISG got nerfed as well. Since 1.0 already in FBP.

Or even better: Play the FBP :) Then you would see how strong isg are vs maxims for example :)


Or search in page the correct word as "Le.ig 18" instead of isg :D Found the changes thanks. Glad to see this issue is acknowledged.




What factions you playing and in what game mode?

And like Sturm panther stated there is a mod right now testing all sorts of changes to the game. If you are talking about that then it's a whole other game to answer.

But if you're playing the live game and are struggling against isgs, check out the strategy forums on this site as the ISG has been a constant issue with each iteration it goes through.


Playing 1v1 and 2v2, wanted to play the mod but couldnt see people playing that mod, people have no desire on that mod?



20 Aug 2017, 05:20 AM
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5 bucks says they're gonna add the GrW 34 to the OKW as well LMAO.


Just go all out and give them this instead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10_cm_Nebelwerfer_40
20 Aug 2017, 10:02 AM
#7
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Just go all out and give them this instead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10_cm_Nebelwerfer_40


I'd prefer the GrW 42, tbh, or the Nebel as a doctrinal unit. The bigger and heavier the better.
20 Aug 2017, 11:03 AM
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I'd prefer the GrW 42, tbh, or the Nebel as a doctrinal unit. The bigger and heavier the better.


Nah, but GrW42 isnt over engineered expensive enough ._.
20 Aug 2017, 12:04 PM
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Nah, but GrW42 isnt over engineered expensive enough ._.

And was produced in numbers more than 2.
20 Aug 2017, 19:42 PM
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5 bucks says they're gonna add the GrW 34 to the OKW as well LMAO.


Lmao give okw a sniper too you know one with body armor because they lack that
20 Aug 2017, 19:46 PM
#11
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jump backJump back to quoted post20 Aug 2017, 19:42 PMRocket


Lmao give okw a sniper too you know one with body armor because they lack that


Same reason they gave volks incendiary nades you know cause they cant deal with garrisons with the best super fighting starting unit in the game and kubels, that also repairs KTs to full health or a badly hurt flak uber commando truck in 10 seconds.
20 Aug 2017, 20:31 PM
#12
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jump backJump back to quoted post20 Aug 2017, 19:42 PMRocket


Lmao give okw a sniper too you know one with body armor because they lack that

But that is exactly what the current LEIG is
20 Aug 2017, 22:09 PM
#13
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But that is exactly what the current LEIG is

Lolol. Don't forget it pens tanks too.
21 Aug 2017, 15:47 PM
#14
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What they need is heavy artillery. A Karl Gerät would do nicely.
Vaz
21 Aug 2017, 15:57 PM
#15
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It does miss, but it's AOE is kind of large, so when it misses you still take damage. Direct hits are pretty devastating.
21 Aug 2017, 16:42 PM
#16
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Aug 2017, 15:57 PMVaz
It does miss, but it's AOE is kind of large, so when it misses you still take damage. Direct hits are pretty devastating.


Have you actually looked at it's AOE and other stats before posting this?
It has a smaller aoe than any other mortar, why also being the secondmost expensive, being 10mp cheaper than the 120mm.

Near/far:
Ost mortar: 1/3
USF mortar: .75/3
Sov small mortar: 1/3
Sov bic boi mortar: 1.5/4.5
OKW leig: .75/2.25
UKF mortar: 1/3

the Leig also gets the smallest aoe damage multiplier.


Lolol. Don't forget it pens tanks too.


The chance for that is lower than an SU-76 chances of penetrating a KT frontal plate at max range
21 Aug 2017, 23:41 PM
#17
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Aug 2017, 16:42 PMDomine


Have you actually looked at it's AOE and other stats before posting this?
It has a smaller aoe than any other mortar, why also being the secondmost expensive, being 10mp cheaper than the 120mm.

Near/far:
Ost mortar: 1/3
USF mortar: .75/3
Sov small mortar: 1/3
Sov bic boi mortar: 1.5/4.5
OKW leig: .75/2.25
UKF mortar: 1/3

the Leig also gets the smallest aoe damage multiplier.



The chance for that is lower than an SU-76 chances of penetrating a KT frontal plate at max range

It also has less scatter than the ostheer mortar and brit mortar pit.

Did some screwing around in cheatmode and even though you're right and frontal hits don't pen that reliably, they still often do (it has something like a 45-48% chance to frontally pen a sherman right?) a lot of shots inflict their splash damage on it and some will hit the rear, especially when they get fired at an extremely high angle for whatever reason. In effect, they will deal more damage to tanks than the penetration values suggest. Not that this is empirical testing in any way, and not that this makes leigs stunningly OP, but it happens. They also actually hit vehicles a lot more than the ost mortar it seems.

The very scientific replay.
22 Aug 2017, 01:54 AM
#18
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Oh that CPU - Easy is a known scrub. Replay invalid.

;)
22 Aug 2017, 11:26 AM
#19
avatar of Matson

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ISG never squad wipes like other mortars and cost you 9POP. I always feel like OKW have very little indirect fire which is whole another subject. I would like to give everyone almost same mortar like MG. No one is bitching that vickers are stronger then MG42.
22 Aug 2017, 11:47 AM
#20
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Aug 2017, 11:26 AMMatson
No one is bitching that vickers are stronger then MG42.


Because they are not. They only do more damage. But in terms of suppression, the Vickers is far inferior to the MG42.
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