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No Snipers Plz.
I love USF but they don't need Snipers, what they need is something to give them sustain in the lategame, early to midgame they are fine if you can handle Riflemen well.
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Why ? its just an additional Unit to USF if you dont like Snipers then leave them and dont use Them in USF
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The reason devm lost is because he does the same strats every game. He's a great player, but luvnest knew exactly what to expect from him and prepared for it.
USF isn't the problem. He won every other match with it.
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But you do realize that USF has tools other factions dont have, like non-doctrinal smoke on every unit (or so it feels). Plus free units from tech and good vehicles if you know how to use them. It can be hard to get rid of an Ost Sniper, but the Ost sniper is still very fragile and when he dies it can often be gg.
And you dont seem to understand what a huge change adding a sniper would be (even though you yourself called them game changers), and its not about using/not using them, but rather about playing against them...
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So you are saying to counter USF you just need to play OKW?
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To counter DevM you just need to be Luvnest.
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Eh the .50 cal comes out pretty early if you rush lt tech, and moving it to t0 would require the gun to be completely reworked since it would be insanely op when compared to other t0 mgs
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Yeah, it's fine where its at. Also, it counters kubel as hard as kubel counters usf.
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isnt that Early MG42 OP ? it rekts Riflemen Squads
that wont be USF's Problem OKW player can go and capture other side of the map with Kuble that 50cal isnt covering it.
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For one thing, I would honestly choose .50 over mg42 every time given the choice. Faster setup, crazy dps, and really good stock penetration along with sprint and AP rounds. The only reason .50 can be this powerful is because it comes the latest of all nondoctrinal mgs. If .50 was t0 you could literally just spam like 4 and use them like the old maxim (a move to victory). Sure, they'd be a little squishier but they wreck infantry and light vehicles (except for luchs). Comparing .50 to mg42 is silly; the only thing mg42 has over the .50 is a wider arc, which doesn't even matter because the .50 can setup and teardown very fast.
Edit: this is coming from a usf player.
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I'm just trying to get Tobis attention, I like him, he also played USF really well in the GCS with one epic comeback.
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Can you give me link to cast of that game, please?
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Remember the days when every fifth "balance debate" were big swooping dramatic discussions about minutia and power dynamics at the very least, not just "I play faction X like Y, please make it viable".They already have USF has a good late game unit at all commadners like callipe paratroopers dozer and m10 rangers perhing priest heavy air support
Not to discourage you too much OP, or seem too too crotchety, but I refer you to Findeed's post.
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I agree with ya i want USF to change so bad but relic wont do shit cuz doesnt give shit for USF and will never change them
Yeah Exactly
+ Sandbags ; you know its really funny That US Forces need a commander to Build SandBags LOL its like Sandbag is some Special Thing like King Tiger
i should say USF has no Commander to Help in Late game and Counter German Heavy Tanks such as Jagtiger/Elephant Tank destroyer . (some people might say P47 is useful but its really not and doesnt give much Damage to Those Heavy Tanks)
USF needs a real Balance i have no idea what Relic is doing ?! coh2 is a great game but these issues are really annoying while relic can easily solve these issues and make this game balance and fair for USF players.
==> As a summary i should say Late game is unfair for USF.
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No Snipers Plz.No i want snipers
I love USF but they don't need Snipers, what they need is something to give them sustain in the lategame, early to midgame they are fine if you can handle Riflemen well.
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Yes dude that what we are atalkign about Relix must do a lot of cahgners in the gmae to make it ballance USF is so bad at killign snipers attacking at late game and killing late tanks that at late game you literly have nothing you msu t let soviets kill the heaviest
But you do realize that USF has tools other factions dont have, like non-doctrinal smoke on every unit (or so it feels). Plus free units from tech and good vehicles if you know how to use them. It can be hard to get rid of an Ost Sniper, but the Ost sniper is still very fragile and when he dies it can often be gg.
And you dont seem to understand what a huge change adding a sniper would be (even though you yourself called them game changers), and its not about using/not using them, but rather about playing against them...
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No i want snipers
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