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And how many of these people compared to those that are not? That is a particularly relevant question since it determines how many people will buy and play the game at all. Like it or not, if the answer is ridiculous like ten thousand as opposed to a million, then it's not worth it for Relic to have that system.


So this system relies entirely on Relic doing more work? lol that's pretty wishful thinking.

Pretty bold assertion without any research done whatsoever.

And if I got dropped and said fuck it I'll just go take a shower, am I as much a leaver as that sore loser you played with? No, and the game cannot cannot possibly discern that.

Unfortunately what you have to say about this has nothing to do with your proposed system.
And what about being a dumbass noob that causes my win streak to fail? Should they get punished as well? Or are we differentiating from random automatches to unranked custom compstomps?
Getting more complicated now, isn't it? That system of yours is going to have to be even more complex.


So all three peolpe who don't want to play on will get banned, because the one guy that's "tough" won't even though he's forcing the other three to that action?
System fails.

You're not tough because you don't leave the game.

As for disconnections, I never get disconnected from Starcraft or BF4. As far as I am concerned, Relic's handling of their game servers or however it's done is comparatively shoddy and is the main culprit of game drops in my experience.

I sure as shit won't want to be held liable for a "crime" that I'm not even responsible for. Shit game is shit game, you don't make a system that punishes the PLAYERS for suffering it.

1-And how many of these people compared to those that are not? That is a particularly relevant question since it determines how many people will buy and play the game at all. Like it or not, if the answer is ridiculous like ten thousand as opposed to a million, then it's not worth it for Relic to have that system.
>>First of all : more people will come and play this game with system because they are sure that fool team mate isn't gonna leave and keep playing.
Second: you want to play a great game with nice and cool people or play a Ridiculous game with millions of fool people ?! i personally prefer to play a game with 10 cool persons till playing it with 10 milion idiots.

2-So this system relies entirely on Relic doing more work? lol that's pretty wishful thinking.
>> Why ? Relic just created a cool game that requires boarding effort which is pretty hard work and why relic shouldn't be able to do the easy part ?!

3-Pretty bold assertion without any research done whatsoever. >> Well i should say if this situation continue number of coh2 players will increase. don't you think a cool player will hate the game if he sees his team mates are continuously leaving the game ?! so with this option there wont be more unreasonable leaving therefore no more hating of the game. and more people by hearing it are gonna buy the game.

4-And if I got dropped and said fuck it I'll just go take a shower, am I as much a leaver as that sore loser you played with? No, and the game cannot cannot possibly discern that. >> LOL ?! taking a shower after you got disconnected while you can join back to a competitive match ?
of course you will deserve to get punished and get banned. its obvious and doesn't need that question.
by doing this you are gonna waste your team mates time and possible make them lose that game.

5-Unfortunately what you have to say about this has nothing to do with your proposed system. >> why ?
it can easily be done.
dumbass noob that causes my win streak to fail >> well its a game and dumbass noob players can be everywhere as they might be in your enemy team. so you gotta deal with it. btw i don't think you match make with noob players. because if you are good player you will have good team mates as same as your level because relic ranking system works like that.
Or are we differentiating from random automatches to unranked custom compstomps >> we are talking about ranked games here not about unranked games so punishment system is not necessary in unranked matches.

That system of yours is going to have to be even more complex >> complex ? i don't think so and i have no idea why its complex for you ?!

6-So all three peolpe who don't want to play on will get banned, because the one guy that's "tough" won't even though he's forcing the other three to that action?
System fails. >> a player who chooses to play a competitive match shall stand till end of it otherwise i don't call him a real competitor and yeah he must play till its end.
if you are having problem with this why don't you go and play 1v1 ? or unranked 2v2 , 3v3 , 4v4 ?

You're not tough because you don't leave the game. >> The obvious contradiction in your sentence (do you think before writing something ?)

I sure as shit won't want to be held liable for a "crime" that I'm not even responsible for. Shit game is shit game, you don't make a system that punishes the PLAYERS for suffering it. >> you are reposible since you left the game so stay liable for . so deal with a competitive game and these responsibilities or just leave competitive gaming.

you don't make a system that punishes the PLAYERS for suffering it >>

a play who leaves should get punish and suffered. doesn't he suffers his team mates ?

That's right, I shouldn't be punished for taking a logical step in avoiding a waste of time. The alternative to punishment shouldn't be a more waste of time, it is pointless and won't contribute to a game's longevity.
Who wants to play a game where you might get banned just for trying to leave a game?


There is no way to find out if someone "doesn't" come back. Sometimes my game drops at start, or in the middle. You're telling everyone that I must be categorized the same as a rage quitter?


Players leaving is hardly a major problem for any game. Technical issues, abusing chat, and cheating are major problems for games. At the very best, this one is the first.
What's actually going to happen is that the player base will drop up until no one else plays the game, because as long as players are in the game, there will be people who will experience drops. At least now, those players would want to come back; with your solution, they can't. There won't ever be a "vice versa", and certainly not incidentally.


Says the guy that constantly talks about CS:GO, doesn't even explain the way it works over there, either.

The intentions and reasons for leaving a match defines what makes it a crime, not the fact that they leave at all. A ragequitter and someone suddenly losing connection or power while intentionally playing the game are both leavers, and any punishment system is immediately a flawed one if there's no way to discern between the two.


I don't like that situation, but I don't have to like a situation in order for it to be working as intended.
Your idea of punishing people who do this won't even solve this problem, anyways. What happens is said players stay in the game and just get toxic, grief your units and base to make the match end earlier, or go AFK because it avoids them being banned. Your system is therefore flawed since it neither solves problem, but also makes it worse.


Pointless then, since you can just sleep it off or go play another game. Relic doesn't want a system where players are FORCED to play other people's games because they got dropped or rage quitted.
The people most affected by this wouldn't even be rage quitters, it's the guys that get a connection issue, the guys that actually want to play the game but experience problems. If you want a punishment system you need to make sure it's punishing the right people.

And what about team games where one guy refuses to surrender when everyone else wants to? Should all three players risk being banned via leaving because one guy was AFK or otherwise didn't vote at all? Because your punishment system demands that.

1-Who wants to play a game where you might get banned just for trying to leave a game? >> Good question
now there is the answer : Tough players who doesn't like a team mate leaves.

2-There is no way to find out if someone "doesn't" come back. Sometimes my game drops at start, or in the middle. You're telling everyone that I must be categorized the same as a rage quitter? >> why cant you understand this simple thing ? no you are not gonna get punished if you join back to the game and if you get disconnected because of your connection ( i mean its not your fault) you can come back to the game by an other option called "RECONNECT TO GAME". its third time i'm explaining you this.

3-What's actually going to happen is that the player base will drop up until no one else plays the game, because as long as players are in the game, there will be people who will experience drops. At least now, those players would want to come back; with your solution, they can't. There won't ever be a "vice versa", and certainly not incidentally.
>> number of coh2 players will increase with this solution you know why ? because as i said most of people enjoy of playing a game without any leavers.

4-way it works over there >> did you read last paragraph of previous post ? i brought you an example of how it works.

5- The intentions and reasons for leaving a match defines what makes it a crime, not the fact that they leave at all. A ragequitter and someone suddenly losing connection or power while intentionally playing the game are both leavers, and any punishment system is immediately a flawed one if there's no way to discern between the two.
>> we can Distinguish leaver (rage-quitter) from the one who gets disconnected because of connection problems by which RECONNECTING system. it just became 4th time i'm explaining this.

6-Your idea of punishing people who do this won't even solve this problem, anyways. What happens is said players stay in the game and just get toxic, grief your units and base to make the match end earlier, or go AFK because it avoids them being banned. Your system is therefore flawed since it neither solves problem, but also makes it worse. >> you just pointed a good point " going toxic and being AFK" to prevent this happening a heavy punishment is required. for example you save game reply and send it to relic then team killer player is going to get CD-Key banned.
and about AFK guy there should be an option which kicks player if he doesn't move for 1 minute and replace it with expert CPU with more resources ( why more resources ? because of Compensation of AFK time)

7-And what about team games where one guy refuses to surrender when everyone else wants to? Should all three players risk being banned via leaving because one guy was AFK or otherwise didn't vote at all? Because your punishment system demands that. >> yes leaver shall get punished. thats not that toughs guy problem if he doesn't want to surrender. that's the leavers problem.

Now that's just unreasonable...

just imagine some one is sitting in his own boat he can Pierce it but if that person is sitting in a ship with other people he is not allowed to Pierce it.

I don't play CS:GO, but it also sounds like you haven't either seeing as you didn't actually properly explain how it works.
It's ot up to you or the game to decide whether someone leaves deserves punishment, because frankly you nor the game can ever discern between legit reasons and ragequit. Besides who even want to keep playing with a sore loser?
The answer is another sore loser.


When you play a game you are intentionally wasting your own time for enjoyment. That you don't like it when other people happen to leave mid-game is not a crime.
If the game doesn't compensate and the player that stays loses leaderboard rank, that's the games problem. You don't fix a game problem by punishing players.
This is like banning players who use OP unit call-ins rather than just nerfing the call-ins. That's dumb.


Because you clearly have the North Korean sort of punishment mentality.

No they don't. If they do, that's not the leaver's fault. It's the game's. You don't blame OKW players if OKW is bugged or OP. You blame the game, blame Relic, and make them fix it.


If they gave a fuck last few years they would have done something about it. But they don't, so they won't. You're just so desperate that you'll lash out at anyone. Don't be no fascist.

No, you just want to punish someone as opposed to looking to fixing the issue. Punishing leavers won't fix the issue, it will just force players to leave the game. At least cheating is a blatant violation that occurs when cheaters STAY in the game.

1-you nor the game can ever discern between legit reasons and ragequit >> did you read previous posts ? i explained how to realize a guy who gets Disconnected from a guy who just Leaves or Rage Quites ;
if the one who left the game join back to the game it means that he has Lost his Connnection and he has legit reason for leaving game but if he doesn't join back to the game it means that he has Rage quited.

2-When you play a game you are intentionally wasting your own time for enjoyment >> Enjoyment isn't wasting time.

3-If the game doesn't compensate and the player that stays loses leaderboard rank, that's the games problem. You don't fix a game problem by punishing players. >> Punishing player equals with fixing the Problem because by punishing the player who leaves the game without any reason we actually prevent from these problems to happen again.

4-This is like banning players who use OP unit call-ins rather than just nerfing the call-ins. That's dumb. >> these 2 subjects have nothing to do with each other.

5-Because you clearly have the North Korean sort of punishment mentality.>> if its North Korean sort then CS:GO's Sort is also for North Korea but i dont know why are really enjoying that Punishment sort ?! dont you think its fair enough ? if you dont like it then its your Problem not other players who want to have a fair game.

6-that's not the leaver's fault >> Again you have understood nothing of what we said about these options.
obviously its the leavers fault who leaves the game and doesnt join back

7-If they gave a fuck last few years they would have done something about it. But they don't, so they won't. You're just so desperate that you'll lash out at anyone. Don't be no fascist. >> yeah maybe they dont care about it for Coh2 but they will bring this option to Coh3

BTW why you disagree with punishment ?! i think you are 1 of those players who leave in middle of Competitive match and doesnt respect to teammates right. otherwise you should be agree with these terms.