Worst and Best rocket arty.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2017, 21:33 PMtenid

So the land mattress vet 2 does absolutely nothing. Totally fair that.
E: Seriously though, no matter what the balance is on a unit you can't justify having vet 2 do absolutely nothing.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2017, 21:14 PMMr.Smith

Note that Landmattress Vet2 actually does nothing (i.e., it applies the damage modifier to an inexistent weapon). This was a bug that was intentionally left unfixed.

HP is down to 300 since GCS, so that it can get two-shot properly, like the other howitzers.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2017, 15:49 PMElSlayer

IMO:

1) You focus on unimportant aspects and miss those that really matter
2) "Devastating barrage, huge kill zone, wipes everything". Such bias. Much wow.

Kat > Caliope > Stuka > Matress > PeeWerfer

PWerfer
Cons:
- Long time between shooting (producing sound) and the moment when rockets actually hit the target.
- Dies to a single tank shot.
- Teching requirements.
Pros:
- Unloads all ordinance at once, making consistent damage upon impact.
- More consistent effect at long ranges than other rocket artillery pieces.
- Suppresses.

Katy
Cons:
- Fires rockets in salvos making it easier to avoid before most .
- Getting very inconsistent as range increases.
- Dies to a single tank shot.
- Can be penetrated by small arms fire (e.g. Falls popped out from building, Faust + some shooting = dead Katy).
Pros:
- Short time between firing rockets and the moment when they actually hit target, making it most cost-effective squad wiper (if firing from min range) among all rocket artillery pieces.

Calliope
Cons:
- Cost.
Pros:
- Basically can't be dive-killed unless you have seriously f'd up.
- Even better at squad wiping from min distance than Katy, but much less cost-effective.
- Inconsistent at long ranges.

Stuka
Cons:
- Cost.
- Short range.
Pros:
- Timing.
- Can survive standard 160 damage shot.
- With some training it is possible to predict spread of rockets amont targetting line. This allows to land rockets right on top of support weapons, consistently wiping 4-man team weapons.


Matress
Cons:
- Short range.
- Slow moving speed - can't run away from infantry pushes (if you f'd up), can't switch flanks quickly
Pros:
- Great saturation, almost guarantieed squad wipe if target don't leave barrage zone
- Long area denial
- If my observations are correct - deals solid deflection damage to vehicles

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2017, 21:45 PMMr.Smith

Maybe we could have locked White Phosphorus behind vet1 and move the old vet1 to vet2. However, to do that would mean adding new text that would have to be translated to a lot of languages, and we didn't want to delay the patch.

We had very little time to prepare GCS, though. During that time we received very minimal feedback (which is the main reason why Maxim sucks so much). We didn't want to dilute that feedback any further by going for unnecessary changes.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jun 2017, 18:49 PMincognito

I find Stuka inconsistent in wiping squad. Problem is that it can sometimes wipe and sometimes not, but sometimes not happens more often.

And good luck vetting it.

I think vet. requirements should be lowered, to make this thing atleas more cost effective.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jun 2017, 13:40 PMGarrett

As the legendary Katitof - and his word is law - once said (out of my memory): Pwerfer > Katy, because the Werfer has a mounted machine gun (no joke). Boys, don't forget to use your Pwerfers to support your men in infantry engagements with the mg!

Jump back to quoted post16 Jun 2017, 20:27 PMLoopDloop

Pretty much always wipes team weapons though, which really hurts. It is rather inconsistent in all other areas due to (ironically) it's pinpoint accuracy. It's also good at finishing off damaged jacksons lol.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jun 2017, 13:43 PMMr.Smith

lol. That's so clueless.

Everybody knows that Katy > PWerfer because Katyusha can crush infantry (no joke!) and Panzerwerfer cannot.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jun 2017, 13:43 PMMr.Smith

lol. That's so clueless.

Everybody knows that Katy > PWerfer because Katyusha can crush infantry (no joke!) and Panzerwerfer cannot.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jun 2017, 16:31 PMLoopDloop

Lol can it really though? Crush them falls next time they pop out of a house to kill mah katy.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2017, 22:38 PMNano

Katyusha is a funny one, when you use it you feel like you are doing little. But when you get smacked by it you certainly feel it having a big impact.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jun 2017, 13:52 PMSturmpanther

I remember of a game on Sittard Summer, when it was in automatch.

3 Vet5 Stuka killed a Full Hp ISU!!!

Any question left?