Infiltration units needs a change

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2017, 05:25 AMelchino7

When in doubt, don't pull info out of your ass.

http://stat.coh2.hu/weapon.php?filename=panzer_grenadier_bundled_stielgranate_mp
http://stat.coh2.hu/weapon.php?filename=tommy_gammon_bomb_medium

Both do 120dmg.

The hammer grenade/satchel does 200 but takes eons to explode.

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2017, 01:10 AMLoopDloop

Actually, I find that they cover a lot of the brits' weaknesses really well. Garrison messing with you? No problem. Sneak a gammon bomb in. Mortar giving you trouble? Hold fire and hunt it down from camo, and even steal it afterwards. They're in some really good commanders too. Commandos are literally the only reason that brits don't absolutely have to build pits every single game.

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2017, 01:35 AMWilliam Christensen

Probably because the design of Stormtroopers as Infiltration Units is actually balance and it's not a complete insta-nuke-your-support-weapon kind of unit: They infiltrate, they harass; if enemy don't relocate their support units, they will get wiped (Rather than Commandos and Fallschirmjagers where you don't even have time to relocate your support units... they just got god damn insta-wiped with nuke nades and extreme close-range DPS, which is just pure cheese!). My suggestions are to make them more balance similar to Stormtroopers, while adding the increase capping speed to highlight their role as infiltrators/supply-line disruptors, not nuking-your-sh*t-then-run kind of cheese.

P/s: Maybe just me, but if my suggestions actually work, I would want to see Stormtroopers' Medkits got replace with "Booby Traps" (Similar to JLI and Obers) to further highlight their disrupting role. ‎

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2017, 14:03 PMMirdarion

Stormtroopers may be balanced as a unit, but that was not what I was talking about. Stormtroopers are entirely pointless to the faction as a whole. They are overly expensive for their performance (especially when considering their performance with any of their upgrades), and they don't do anything that can't be done by other units. Even their cloak is covered by other doctrines, all of which have more value to Ostheer than Encirclement.

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2017, 13:58 PMMirdarion

You got me wrong there, I was talking about Stormtroopers.