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Also stugs are dirty cheap at doing their job. The cost 160 fuel (2x) whereas 2 jacsons cost 250 fuel...
And 2 stugs keep allied armor at bay as well as 2 jacksons keep axis armor at bay
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They are at 180 fuel (2x 90). For the higher price, Jacksons have a turret to flank enemy tanks.
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They are at 180 fuel (2x 90). For the higher price, Jacksons have a turret to flank enemy tanks.
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Jackson has, turret, speed , sight which is why it costs more etc, but im not guna go off topic. yes Churchill may need slight buffs, TWP may need to be reworked to but STUGS? you wna nerf stugs? go ahead nerf em and make them useless like they wer in the past when no one used them. if your getting kept at bay by 2 stugs you need to L2P mate
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He also has low healthbar and no armor so he can be killed by anything withing 3 shots if he´s ever too brave to flank.
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Permanently BannedStuGs are a crutch that keep Ostheer in the game. The other crutch is support weapons (MG42 and Pak). Take either away from them and the faction collapses entirely.
After a straight up Ostheer Panther and/or Panzer IV buff we can talk about adjusting the StuG.
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I can´t follow your post. What does me playing with a Panther in a game have to do with the quality of the unit?
One time on stream, i see how you play with panthers ( it was minsk) , so read you posts about panther buff looks like joke man
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people really underestimates churchill, but that's because their AT capabilities aren't that great as comets, it's a typical "tank" role, to hold out enemy, take damage and so on, churchill is really hard to get destroyed
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It's not really smart to use that tank as damage sponge though, especially against OKW. It's free exp.
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Permanently BannedI can´t follow your post. What does me playing with a Panther in a game have to do with the quality of the unit?
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I built exactly one Panther the last weeks and that was as OKW (which reached vet 5 btw). That one was actually diving into enemy lines... because that´s what the Panther is supposed to do. You have to use its speed to hunt tanks. I guess not everyone grasps that concept. And it surfived the game.
I think when you send panther like YOLO without support what you whant from unit ?
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Permanently BannedI built exactly one Panther the last weeks and that was as OKW (which reached vet 5 btw). That one was actually diving into enemy lines... because that´s what the Panther is supposed to do. You have to use its speed to hunt tanks. I guess not everyone grasps that concept. And it surfived the game.
Secondly you still didn´t give any single argument why you think Panthers are fine or why Ostheer doesn´t have to rely on StuGs to be viable.
Also improve your English.
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This has been discussed and it does not work like that. It stills gives same exp that way.
all you filthy hotchkiss lovers need to l2p #TeamPanzerIII
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I would rather have the Churchill have more utility:
1) Move Smoke/WP shot to Churchill
2) Make "infantry support smoke" activate the offensive cover bonuses to UKF infantry
3) Make command tank upgrade lower the speed of Churchill to 4
Then Churchill can work as in its theoretical role of "infantry support tank"
That looks intresting.
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