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Guards (with coming nerfs) are hardly elite when compere to Obers, Paras, Rangers or even PzGrens.
Personally, for me it's more obvious to give them a buff but increase call-in cost and reinforce to make them powerful, expensive and elite to encourge to use Penals/Cons instead of making them semi-main line infantry.
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Guards (with coming nerfs) are hardly elite when compere to Obers, Paras, Rangers or even PzGrens.
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Why would you compare Para's and Rangers to Guards?
Maybe the soviets have a different tool (or set of tools) to fill the rolls that these other units fill?
Comparing 2 units in a vacuum ignores way too many aspects of the game.
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Guards, DSHK.
Also Maxims too, until they get eventually nerfed.
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I appreciate all of the work that you and the rest of the balance team have done, but, comments like this make most of us think that you're pretty biased towards axis factions.
The win rate right now is the most balanced that it has ever been. It will be interesting to see what it is after the patch.
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You won't find a single top player or non biased one which would tell you that maxims A move strats aren't TOO GOOD for whatever input they require.
There's an (unfortunate) reason why maxims are mainline infantry and conscripts are supports.
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I wouldn't argue that point but, at the same time, show me one of those players who uses conscripts as their main infantry throughout the game.
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Becasue they are supposed to be elite, like Rangers or Pars, not main line infnatry (maybe not in terms of raw power but you should feel "elitness")
With cheaper (and weaker) Guards, maxim spam into Guards with Motor Guard will be a thing for 99% games (unless you want to stay fancy and use Cons but why would you?)
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The idea with the 222 is that it can now deal more damage to infantry in the short window it can fight infantry that is not in cover. Their staying power is unchanged and they will cost a whole lot more, enough so ostheer is pretty much going all-in with their fuel investment for 222s.
Considering 222s had to more or less make sacrificial dives to be worth it, this means the 222 won't be able to perform that same role.
The 222 is kind of like the flakht for okw now: too expensive, poorly timed, highly situational, and ineffective in its role.
222 has been an issue since day 1. The dang thing is supposed to be closer to a kubel than the 234 puma it's pretending to be.
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You won't find a single top player or non biased one which would tell you that maxims A move strats aren't TOO GOOD for whatever input they require.
There's an (unfortunate) reason why maxims are mainline infantry and conscripts are supports.
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They are pretty commonly see on the battlefield to be elite right now.
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The win rate right now is the most balanced that it has ever been. It will be interesting to see what it is after the patch.
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And that's the thing. They are already common so why make them even more common? Why would you ever use Penals or Cons if you can spam maxims and then spam guards?
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