Ægion's Balance and Rework

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This mod does use the GCS Preview also.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=881371991

he GCS Balance Preview is designed to eliminate some specific, overly dominate meta identified by top players in the community. The changes outlined in this preview are meant to be as minimalistic as possible while identifying and addressing the primary cause of the problems discussed.

Although the solutions put forward in this mod will attempt to be finalized in time for the tournament, if strong contention exists with the proposed changes or existing or new problems remain, the iteration period will continue until all issues are resolved.

Therefore, the more testing and feedback we get regrading the proposed changes the better. Please Subscribe to the mod on the Steam Workshop, play a ton of it, and give us your feedback in our GCS-BP Feedback Thread.

SOVIETS

Maxims

We find that the dominant Soviet âMaxim-spamâ strategy is far too effective compared to the effort required to pull it off.

In order to remove this dominate meta while not further devaluing the Maximâs as a support weapon, we are increasing the arc of the Maxim MG and reducing its suppression performance. The Maxim will however retain the following benefits over other MG teams:

Durability of a 6-man crew
Fast teardown time to escape flanks
To further bring the Maxim in line with other MGs, we are removing sprint which allows MGs to escape unfavorable engagements to easily and are also increasing the setup time to other MG levels. To further help prevent spamming of this unit, we are increasing the reinforcement cost of the original crew to match the reinforcement cost of Conscripts.

Arc of fire increased from 60 degrees to 90 degrees (other MGs have 120 degrees)
Setup time from 2 to 3 (other MGs have 3)
Burst duration from 2.25 to 4.5
Damage reduced from 4 to 3 (the DPS of the Maxim remains the same)
Tracking speed from 35 to 28
Suppression reduced from 0.00015909 to 0.00005
Reinforcement cost from 15 to 20
Sprint removed from Vet 1
Vet 1 now increases suppression by 10% (to partially cancel out lower base suppression)
Until the conclusion of the balance mod iteration cycle, we will try to come up with an interesting, but balanced Vet1 ability.

M4C Shermans

To prevent players from over-relying on Sherman call-ins, we are increasing the dispatch time between successive Shermans to encourage players to choose between tech or call-in tanks. Moreover, longer recharge time between Sherman will prevent players from spamming Shemans when the Command Point requirements become met.

Increased recharge time between shermans to from 36 seconds to 2:30 minutes

OKW

Command Panther

We feel the Command Panther is it too powerful of a unit on its own, giving it the feel of a "one-tank-army". This is primarily because of the +50% damage bonus that the Mark Target ability bestows on and designated target. Given that this ability also compounds performance in team games, we are enacting some preliminary changes to the Command Panther. We also feel the CP cost is not in line with its value.

Increase Command Point requirements from 10 to 11
Reduce Mark Target damage from +50% to +25%
Mark Target now also increases penetration and accuracy to 25%

UKF

Tank Commander Upgrade

We feel that the ability's cost vs value is out of balance. In particular, the experience gain modifier distorts the veterancy gain rate of the affected tanks.

Removed veterancy gain bonuses from the upgrade
Removed stealth detection bonuses from the upgrade
(The upgrade now only awards accuracy/sight bonuses, which is more than OK for the price)

Emergency Warspeed

We feel that the ability bestows far too powerful mobility bonuses to the already highly-mobile roster of the British faction. This comes in contrast with the free-to-use nature of the ability. We are also removing the ability of players to âtune upâ the tanks of their teammates with the ability.

Speed modifier reduced from +35% to +15%
Acceleration modifier reduced from +60% to +30%
It is no longer possible to âtune-upâ allied tanks with Emergency Warspeed

AEC Treadshot

To make the ability fire more reliably (i.e., without bugs), we are changing the nature of the ability such that the AEC has to be stationary to fire it. At the same time, we are increasing the responsiveness of the ability to give UKF players that preserve their AEC with a reliable snare ability.

Unit has to be stationary to fire Treadshot
Ready aim time reduced from 2 seconds to 1.5 seconds (improves responsiveness)
Reload time between shots reduced from 2.5 seconds to 2 seconds
(the ability will only be refunded if no shots were fired before moving)

Cromwell

We feel that the primary issue with the Cromwell is that due to its speed and rotation rate, it is able to crush models far too efficiently. To reduce Cromwell crushing ability, we are are reducing its rotation rate while keeping its higher-than-average mobility by compensating with increased turret rotation rate.

To give the Cromwell a proper trade off for its highly-mobility we are reducing its moving accuracy to that of other tanks of the same class. Therefore, making the trade-off between accuracy and mobility more pronounced.

Fuel cost increased from 110FU to 120FU
Rotation rate from 38 to 32 (equivalent to Panzer4)
Turret traverse rate from 40 to 47.5 (to counteract chassis rotation reduction)
Moving accuracy multiplier decreased from 0.75 to 0.5
Increase horizontal scatter from 6 to 7.5
Distance scatter max from 6.2 to 6.4
Distance scatter obj min from 5 to 10
Distance scatter offset from 0.3 to 0.25

Comet

The Comet is receiving changes that are similar in-spirit with the ones already described for the Cromwell. In addition to these changes, we are also reducing the range of the main gun of the Comet to 45 to match other anti-infantry-capable tanks (e.g., Pershing, Tiger). We believe that Cometâs higher-than-average armour and mobility will still allow it to overcome the reduced range. At the same time, this will make standoffs with the more-specialist Panther more balanced.

Main gun range from 50 to 45
Population cost increased from 16 to 20
Reduce rotation rate from 36 to 32 to prevent crush (same as Panzer4 levels)
Turret traverse rate from 40 to 45 (to compensate for chasis rotation changes)
Moving accuracy from 0.75 to 0.5
Fixed an issue where the grenade throw ability would sometimes not work
Fixed an issue where it was possible to use the grenade ability while moving
Increase horizontal scatter from 6 to 7.5
Distance scatter max from 4.2 to 6.4
Distance scatter obj min from 5 to 10
Distance scatter offset from 0.3 to 0.25

Cromwell/Comet Smoke Shell/White Phosphorus

We find the range of either ability (80 range) too strong. Thus, we are bringing them both in-line. At the same time, we are introducing a critical fix to both abilities. That way, we expect the abilities to be much more reliable moving forward.

We are also changing the behaviour of Comet White Phosphorus shells so that it no longer finishes off infantry models. The White Phosphorus (WP) shells will still damage models down to 1HP of health (similar to other WP abilities).

Fixed a bug where Smoke Shell/White Phosphorus would, sometimes, fail to trigger properly
Range of Smoke Shell/White Phosphorus reduced from 80 to 45
Comet White Phosphorus will no longer finish off infantry models, bringing its performance in-line with other White-phosphorus abilities

Emplacements

To bring UKF emplacements in line with the emplacements of other armies, we are preventing players from building UKF emplacements in the base sector:

No longer possible to construct emplacements in the base sector

Sappers Flamethrower Upgrade

We are addressing several bugs with this upgrade, which will bring this upgrade in-line with other abilities, and other factions that have similar upgrades.

Sapper flamethrower now, correctly, takes up 1 slot
Sapper flamethrower is now mutually-exclusive with the minesweeper upgrade
Fixed an issue where Sapper flamethrower was dealing additional damage vs squads in cover (i.e., above the level of other flamethrowers)
Fixed a bug with Sappers where Veterancy affected the number of upgrades available to them.

Land Mattress

We feel that the primary issue with the land-mattress is that it affords very limited avenues of counterplay. To address this, we are allowing anti-tank weaponry (e.g., AT guns and tanks) to target the gun first, and be able to destroy the unit, without having to first decrew it. This brings the durability of the Land Mattress down to static howitzer levels.

A secondary issue with the Land Mattress is its rate of fire, giving too little reaction time for the adversary to avoid the coming doom.

Vehicles/etc will focus fire on the gun, as opposed to the crew (if the player right-clicks on the gun)
The Land mattress gets destroyed when its hitpoints become depleted. This is regardless of whether the crew is still alive
Health reduced from 350 hitpoints to 300 hitpoints
Cooldown between rockets increased from 0.25 secs to 0.375 secs (also affects white phosphorus barrage)

Artillery Cover Ability

We find that Artillery Cover is an ability that is too efficient for its cost. This is despite the fact that this is a generalist ability (affects all targets) and requires minimal input from the player vs its final effect. Therefore, we are significantly reducing the effects vs varied types of targets, allowing for greater opportunity of counterplay.

General Changes:

The radius of the ability now properly drawn on the battlescape
Delay until the barrage begins increased from 4 seconds to 8 seconds

Anti-Vehicle Shells:

Decreased the AoE radius of anti-vehicle shells from 8 to 6.
Reduced speed of anti-vehicle shells, so that it is now possible to dodge them
Reduced the duration of loader-injured critical from 10 seconds to 5 seconds
The changes to the anti-vehicle shells will make it possible for tanks that remain in the affected area to dodge incoming shells, provided they continue to move.

Anti-Infantry Barrages:

Suppression vs infantry reduced, so that incoming anti-infantry barrages no longer pin infantry squads, but only suppress them.
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Everything below the line still needs to be added in.

Quality-of-Life Changes

Handbrake 2.0

We are further modifying the handbrake ability to make it provide additional utility to the players.

Instead of completely immobilizing a vehicle, the ability now simply prevents the vehicle from automatically rotating to face enemy units and will now only do so if explicitly given attack command. At the same time, if the ability is on, the vehicle will stop automatically rotating once the movement is complete.

In addition to the original affected vehicles (i.e., all transport vehicles), we are also adding handbrake v2.0 to the following vehicles. This will allow players to control whether they want the vehicles to rotate to face the enemy or not:

Kubelwagen
Flammenhetzer
Crocodile
The following vehicles will retain the original (i.e., immobilize) version of the Handbrake ability. This is due to their potentially lengthy setup time:

M15 (USF)
Infrared Halftrack (OKW)
Flak Halftrack (OKW)

Hold Fire for Tanks/AT Guns

We find that the lack of a proper hold fire ability makes players resort to half-measures to control when their AT-guns or tanks can fire (e.g., by turning on prioritize vehicles to get a better position vs infantry). The following units now have Hold Fire:

All anti-tank guns
All tanks that already have a prioritise-vehicles ability
FlakHT
Panzer4 Command tank
Ostwind
Centaur
KV-2
M15 (MGs will continue to track/fire on targets)

Note: To make UI experience consistent, the doctrinal Soviet AT ambush ability has been moved one row below its previous position.

Currently in game, I do not like the pacing and balancing of the game between. This mod primary changes teching, balance, and a bit of experimental changes while changing the end game out come. Currently I have not touched any of the doctrines. Note I tried to make the fuel costs about on par with each other, if I made an oversight please let me know. If you have any comments, please post down below.

Soviets

T0 Regimental Field Headquarters

-Combat engineers
-Conscripts
-Commissar 300 Manpower

T1 Special Rifle Command 200 Manpower, 30 Fuel

-M-42 Light At Gun
-Sniper
-Scout Car
-Red Army Troops 300 Manpower
These are Penals renamed and reskined to use the Guards with out cape

T2 Support Weapon Kampaneya 200 Manpower, 30 Fuel

-Zis AT gun
-Maximums HGM
-Mortar
-Penal Battalion (Osttruppen Clone) 200 manpower
no AT grenades but can throw Molotovs and merge

T3 and T4 are the same but they do not require each other to build. Now it is an option to go for light vehicles or mediums. Requires T2

Partisan SMGs
can now be upgraded to STG 44s for 100 munitions to make their late game scaling better.
Now Cost 240 to spawn from 210

Conscript
Smg package now changes the ui symbol

Shocks
cost reduced from 390 to 360
vet 1 ability changed from trip flare to Tactical Assault
added an SVT upgrade to transform from a close range squad to a mid range squad.

Katyusha Rockets
Heavy cover damage from 1 to .5 to help prevent clumped up wipes

KV-1
Cost Reduced from 420, 140 to 350, 125

Maximim
-Altered the vet 1 ability
-New toggle mode: Assault mode
-Arc is 60 degrees
-No suppression
-more accuracy

Conscripts
Due to the slightly under performance in comparison to the new factions:
-RA changed from 1.087 to 1. This may be too much, will change if needed.

Combat Engineers
All of the newer faction engineers are inherently strong so to bring the combat engineers in line some changes were made so it can do more than just support in very minor ways.
-RA changed from 1 to .91
-cost change from 170 to 240
-Mosin naganet rifles now match Guards model's
-Flamethrower now requires Molotoves.

Overall the Faction has changed the least. The soivet faction revolves around cheap conscripts and call ins to specialized their army such as shocks, guards, and the IS 2.

Ostheer

T0 Kampfgruppe Headquarters

-Ostruppen 200 manpower
-Pioneers

T1 Infanterie Kompanie 200 manpower 30 fuel

-Grenadiers
-Mortar
-Mg 42
-Sniper (requires battlephase 1)
-Panzergrenadiers (requires battlephase 1)
-Pak 40 (requires battlephase 1)

-Infantry Armor Upgrade
150 manpower, 35 fuel
Pioneers, Grenadiers, Panzergrenadiers, Assault Grenadiers, and Stormtroopers gain 20 Health and .1 Armor. NOT Ostruppen

-Infantry Weapons
150 manpower, 15 fuel
Unlocks flamer, panzerfausts, G43s, and rifle grenades.

T2 Leichte Mechanized Kompanie 200 manpower, 60 Fuel

-222 Scout Car
-251 Halftrack
-250 open transport, 150 Manpower
can be upgraded with a Mortar for 200 manpower

-Puma (requires battlephase 1)
-Panzerwerfer (requires battlephase 3)

T3 Support Armor Korps 100 manpower 75 fuel
(requires battlephase 2)

-Ostwind
-Stug
-Panzer 4
-Panther (requires battlephase 3)
-Brummbär (requires battlephase 3)

Stormtroopers can no longer upgrade to the panzerscheck but can now throw a satchel charge to destroy caches.

Tactical Assault is now a Vet 1 ability for Assault Grenadiers and Stormtroopers.

Artillery officer updated
Call in cost increased from 240 to 270
Gained one additional body guard.
Affected by shared veterancy
Now vets up to vet 5
-vet 4 gains sprint
-vet 5 the aura is now permanent instead of an ability

Tiger Ace Reworked
No longer drains manpower and fuel
cost changed from 800, 0 to 700, 245
Starts at vet 0 and has up to 5 levels of veterancy

Pioneers
All of the newer faction engineers are inherently strong so to bring the combat engineers in line some changes were made so it can do more than just support in very minor ways.
-RA changed from 1 to .91
-cost change from 200 to 240

JU-87 loiter is now replaced with a Strafe
Swapped positions with LMG 42 and G43
Osttruppen and Osttruppen reserves are now a LMG 34 upgrade for Osttruppen
Puma dispatch is now Hull down.

With the change up in teching up, choices can be made. Skip T1 for light vehicles, and then skip t3 for Panzerwerfers and use pumas for AT. There can be more strategies and choice to be made now.

USF

T0 Barracks

-Riflemen
-Rear Echelon
-Ambulance

T1 Lieutenant 300 Manpower, 30 Fuel

-Lieutenant (first one is still free)
-Mortar
-50 cal HMG
-Pak Howitzer (requires weapon racks)
-AT Gun (requires weapon racks)
-Utility Car (requires weapon racks)

T2 Captain 300 Manpower 60 Fuel
(requires Lieutenant)

-Captain (first one is still free)
-Stuart
-M15 AA Halftrack
-M8 Scott

T3 Major 300 Manpower, 150 Fuel
(requires Lieutenant)

-Sherman
-Jackson

Officers reworked
Lieutenant
-no longer has the Thompson or BAR
-Gained On me
-can upgrade to 2 1919 Lmgs for 150 munitions making into a non doctrine elite infantry

Captain
-no longer has the Thompson
-can upgrade to 2 1919 Lmgs for 150 munitions making into a non doctrine elite infantry
-lost On me and Supervise
-Gained the Majors real and fake arty

Major
-One man squad now.
-Now costs 200 manpower
-Gained Supervise
-lost real and fake arty
-5 levels of Veterancy
-at vet 4: able to call in a vet 2 rifleman
-at vet 5: promoted to Colonel and able to call in a non doctrinal Pershing.

Shermans can now be upgraded to a 105mm and/or bulldozer upgrades.

Rear Echelon
-Repair speed now equals the soviet's

Rifleman
-RA from .97 to 1

Forward Observers and 1919 weapon rack now replaced with Scoped rifles for 25 munitions each. This gives more of a difference between the 1919 and BARs.

Airborne
-Pathfinders reworked
Now at 0cp
Alternative to Rifleman
Gain the Scoped rifles with veterancy
RA to .91
260 mp
-Paradrop AT gun is now 100 munitions from 270 manpower
-Paradrop MG is now 75 munitions from 260 manpower
-Rocket Loiter is now a Strafe 120 Munitions

Recon Support
-Paradrop combat group now is paradrop paratroopers
-IR pathfinders are now a 2 man sniper unit
-Greyhound can now switch between ammo types. AP and Canister shot. Canister shot damage decreased from
80 to 40.

Mechanize
-M3 dispatch group is now a Greyhound dispatch

Heavy Cav
-Pershing AOE damage now equals to the Tiger Tank

Armor
-The doctrinal Bulldozer is replaced with the Easy Eight.
-Elite Vehicle Crews now give access to Shermans and Jacksons with five levels of veterancy.

USF received a big shake up to tech and help make the uncommon doctrine more usable. Now USF can receive all of their support weapons allowing more defensive place to happen.

OKW

T0 Command Headquarters

-Sturmpioneers
-Volksgrenadier
-Kubel

T1 Battlegroup Headquarters

-Lieg
-251 IR halftrack
-MG 34
-Raketenwerfer
-Flak Halftrack (requires Medics, and Infantry Weapons)
-Obersoldaten (requires Medics)

-Infantry Weapons
150 manpower, 15 fuel
Unlocks the Flamegrenades, Panzerfausts, LMG 34s, MP40s, MP 44s, and Panzerschecks

T2 Mechanized Regiment Headquarters
(requires T1)

-Panzer 2
-Puma
-Stuka zus Bus
-Opel Blitz (200 manpower)

T3 Schwerer Panzer Headquarters
(requires T1)

-Panzer 4
-Panther
-Jagdpanzer

Volks
-Cost from 250 to 260

-Sturmpios
-Repair speed now equals the soviet's

Fallschirmjager are now dropped in.

With Obersoldaten now available much early on there is now an alternative upgrade for Volksgenadier that may evenally replace the STG Package. Volksgenadier may now upgrade to 5 MP 40s and gain use of smoke grenades, sprint, and tactical assault. This will help differentiate Volks and Obers in late game damage. Addionaly the starting sturmpioneer squad is now volksgrenadier.

British

T0 Field Headquarters

-Infantry Sections
-Royal Engineers
-Universal Carrier
-Medics

T1 Platoon Command Post 200 manpower 30 Fuel
-Vickers HMG
-6 lbs AT gun
-Mortar, equal to the USF Mortar
-Sniper (Requires anvil)
-Assault Commandos (requires hammer) 350 manpower
5 man squad, armed with semi automatic rifles
-AEC (requires hammer)

Now in this building Hammer OR Anvil is researched.

Hammer will allow usage of the Assault Commandos, AEC, and Comet
Anvil will allow usage of Mg emplacements, 17 Lbs AT Guns, 5 man squads, Sextons, and Churchills

T3 Company Command Post 200 manpower, 135 Fuel.

-Cromwell
-Centaur
-Firefly
-Comet (requires hammer)
-Churchill (Requires anvil)
-Sexton (Requires anvil)

Comets and Churchills can no longer throw grenades
Churchill's smoke no longer slows them down. Additionally their vet 1 adds a pintle mount to increase anti-infantry.

Tactical Support
-Recovery operations now cost 250 manpower and only spawns one squad of Engineers

Royal Artillery
-Valentines are now 5 cp from 6
-Valentines now can switch ammo types from AP to HE
-Valentines Vet 1 ability is now the recon mode. Previous Vet 1 ability removed.
-Sextons are no longer Doctrinal
-Sexton call replace with a 25lb emplacement

Advance Emplacements
-Now enables the useage of mortar pits and bofors
-Precision barrage replace with a 25lb emplacement

Infantry sections are 260 manpower but now have a received accuracy of .9 from .8
Royal engineers are 240 manpower but now have a received accuracy of .9 from .8

The UKF are now more reliant on the decision of Hammer or Anvil. Both give game defining touches to the UKF style.

All democharges are changed and are the same.
They do 70 damage
Severe suppression
Force a retreat after 5 seconds

All Infiltration units now have a yellow flare dropped 10 second delay before spawning. Garrsoning a unit in the building we prevent the on field spawn and spawned unit to comes off map. This will enalbe counter play to infiltration units

HMG 42, HMG 34, Dshk, and M2B Ap rounds has been changed. No longer a timed event. Now they load in one Mag/Box of AP rounds and will change back to original rounds upon reloading.

If I miss any edits please let me know. After working on this for so long, things start to get a bit blurry.

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Updated

Reworked the soviet teching to be more like the live version with some tweaks

Added Sherman upgrades

Fallschirmjagers are now dropped in.

other minor fixes

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The mod looks nice.

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Updated

All Infiltration units now have a yellow flare dropped 10 second delay before spawning. Garrsoning a unit in the building we prevent the on field spawn and spawned unit to comes off map. This will enalbe counter play to infiltration units

HMG 42, HMG 34, Dshk, and M2B Ap rounds has been changed. No longer a timed event. Now they load in one Mag/Box of AP rounds and will change back to original rounds upon reloading.

Minor/Major fixes has been made.

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21 Mar 2017, 13:29 PMAngrade (Ægion)

All Infiltration units now have a yellow flare dropped 10 second delay before spawning. Garrsoning a unit in the building we prevent the on field spawn and spawned unit to comes off map. This will enalbe counter play to infiltration units.

Wow. That is an excellent change, actually. Love that idea.

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Updated

Ostheer

Artillery officer updated
Call in cost increased from 240 to 270
Gained one additional body guard.
Affected by shared veterancy
Now vets up to vet 5
-vet 4 gains sprint
-vet 5 the aura is now permanent instead of an ability

Tiger Ace Reworked
No longer drains manpower and fuel
cost changed from 800, 0 to 700, 245
Starts at vet 0 and has up to 5 levels of veterancy

Swapped positions with LMG 42 and G43. This will help prevent the A move style

USF

Officers reworked
Lieutenant
-no longer has the Thompson or BAR
-Gained On me
-can upgrade to 2 1919 Lmgs for 150 munitions making into a non doctrine elite infantry. Since they do not have the levels of veterancy for received accuracy like rifleman they should be fine, but let me know if I need to tone them down a bit
The Lieutenant can now more than support the infantry can just more than fire support with the ability of On me

Captain
-no longer has the Thompson
-can upgrade to 2 1919 Lmgs for 150 munitions making into a non doctrine elite infantry. Since they do not have the levels of veterancy for received accuracy like rifleman they should be fine, but let me know if I need to tone them down a bit
-lost On me and Supervise
-Gained the Majors real and fake arty
Since the Captain is now more a side tech, adjusting the captain to have more field support while his other abilities are diverted to the officers.

Major
-One man squad now.
-Now costs 200 manpower
-Gained Supervise
-lost real and fake arty
-5 levels of Veterancy
-at vet 4: able to call in a vet 2 rifleman
-at vet 5: promoted to Colonel and able to call in a non doctrinal Pershing.
Now the Major now is more of back line support and with enough veterancy he can call in more heavier support but being a lone man makes this squad prime for assassination.

Forward Observers and 1919 weapon rack now replaced with Scoped rifles for 25 munitions each. This gives more of a difference between the 1919 and BARs. Additionally these units gain sight range when behind cover.

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I think that with those changes, the USF infantry roster might actually start making sense. Especially the officers, that is.

You have a great idea that improves the QoL aspects of the game? Please, drop your idea here:
https://www.coh2.org/topic/57860/some-qol-suggestions

Check out Cruzz's DPS calculator:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7gwy65JLbSRMEJ3M2ZPandMMW8/view?usp=sharing
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New Update

Added in most updates from the GCS preview

Soviets

In related to the thread: https://www.coh2.org/topic/60123/contest-new-maxim-vet1-ability
This is my answer in action.
Maximim
-Altered the vet 1 ability
-New toggle mode: Assault mode
-Arc is 60 degrees
-No suppression
-more accuracy

USF

Due to the thread here: https://www.coh2.org/topic/60062/airborne-company
My answer since pathfinders compete with riflemen in the same role, I made them an early game alternative. In comparison, grens will still win at long range while the pathfinders will win at close range in the beginning.

Airborne
Pathfinders reworked
-Now at 0cp
-Alternative to Rifleman
-Gain the Scoped rifles with veterancy
-RA to .91
-260 mp

Armor
-Elite Vehicle Crews now give access to Shermans and Jacksons with five levels of veterancy and removes the Thompson upgrade.

UKF
The sexton is a bit more of a heavier artillery piece. While lower impact compared other factions non doctrinal arty, they at least have some. the 25lb emplacement will enable doctrinal heavy non MLRS artillery for fire support. The bofor is moved to avance emplacement in order to make room for a weaking area denial MG emplacement. I would like to add the mortar pit and bofors to the Royal Engineers load out but that would probably replace the very weak flame mortar. Something for the future perhaps.

MG emplacement added to anvil

Royal Artillery
-Sextons are no longer Doctrinal
-Sexton call replace with a 25lb emplacement

Advance Emplacements
-Now enables the usage of mortar pits and bofors
-Precision barrage replace with a 25lb emplacement

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21 Mar 2017, 13:29 PMAngrade (Ægion)

HMG 42, HMG 34, Dshk, and M2B Ap rounds has been changed. No longer a timed event. Now they load in one Mag/Box of AP rounds and will change back to original rounds upon reloading.

Satisfying, although it may be necessary to increase the cost. At 15 ammo it'd be a no brainer to always have incendiary rounds loaded. Also, when does the cooldown timer begin?

30 Mar 2017, 21:35 PMAngrade (Ægion)

Updated
-at vet 5: promoted to Colonel and able to call in a non doctrinal Pershing.

Haha. At first I thought this devalued the heavy cav commander, but I suppose it really would be a nice reward for getting a single major to vet 5. And the counterplay is pretty obvious.

Interesting mod. I wouldn't mind seeing some of this in a future patch.

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no buffs for obers and falls usf infantry just mowes them down they are supposed to be the best...a damage buff for both will do good

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3 Apr 2017, 04:04 AMmycalliope

no buffs for obers and falls usf infantry just mowes them down they are supposed to be the best...a damage buff for both will do good

Obers comes out of T1 plus medics, falls no longer need a building. I recreated a thread to change falls but people did not like my idea.

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3 Apr 2017, 02:25 AMCyanara

Satisfying, although it may be necessary to increase the cost. At 15 ammo it'd be a no brainer to always have incendiary rounds loaded. Also, when does the cooldown timer begin?

Yeah, most likely 15 mun is too low. 30 maybe good. Currently the cooldown starts when the rounds are first loaded but I can most likely change that to after the reload of the weapon.

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3 Apr 2017, 09:41 AMAngrade (Ægion)

Obers comes out of T1 plus medics, falls no longer need a building. I recreated a thread to change falls but people did not like my idea.

do it its your idea people might like it wehn you implement it,,,and obers i think should be the best infantry so maybe make them t4 and return their og lmg damage so they dont get overrun by standard infy

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3 Apr 2017, 15:01 PMmycalliope

do it its your idea people might like it wehn you implement it,,,and obers i think should be the best infantry so maybe make them t4 and return their og lmg damage so they dont get overrun by standard infy

Have near unkillable infantry. No

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3 Apr 2017, 16:23 PMAngrade (Ægion)

Have near unkillable infantry. No

no..??

they were just fine after the third or second nerf obers got but further nerfs made them underpowered...2 bren tommies vs vet 3 obers and obers lose what is the okw asnwer to this one is general purpose and other is dedicated expensive late arriving anti infy unit doesn't feel fair to me...same with falls (although its their vet sucks tbh)

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4 Apr 2017, 08:30 AMmycalliope

no..??

they were just fine after the third or second nerf obers got but further nerfs made them underpowered...2 bren tommies vs vet 3 obers and obers lose what is the okw asnwer to this one is general purpose and other is dedicated expensive late arriving anti infy unit doesn't feel fair to me...same with falls (although its their vet sucks tbh)

There problem right now is timing, not strength. Since now they can come out so much earlier they do not have to face vet three units. The opponent does not have a full load out on their units . Thus can gain veterancy much earlier so they can continue to scale into the late game like all other infantry.

However, I am working on a anti-tank package for them.

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4 Apr 2017, 12:15 PMAngrade (Ægion)

There problem right now is timing, not strength. Since now they can come out so much earlier they do not have to face vet three units. The opponent does not have a full load out on their units . Thus can gain veterancy much earlier so they can continue to scale into the late game like all other infantry.

However, I am working on a anti-tank package for them.

ok i get it but what about them being elite more expensive dedicated anti infy unit vs losing to tomies wiht 2 brens or 2 bar rilfe mid range..?? that not right too same with falls

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Engineers
Due to how enigneers power level gapped between the orginal and DLC were, I decided to even them out.
- Now all have the same repair rate of the Pioneers and Combat engineers

Combat Engineers
-RA changed from 1 to .91
-cost change from 170 to 240
-Mosin naganet rifles now match Guards model's
-Flamethrower now requires Molotoves.

Pioneers
-RA changed from 1 to .91
-cost change from 200 to 240

Soviets

Conscripts
Due to the slightly under performance in comparison to the new factions:
-RA changed from 1.087 to 1. This may be too much, will change if needed.

Ostheer

Since now with scaling and timing changed the free teching items are now require an upgrade.
-Infantry Weapons
150 manpower, 15 fuel
Unlocks flamer, panzerfausts, G43s, and rifle grenades.

JU-87 loiter is now replaced with a Strafe due to the over preforing nature of this ablity.
Osttruppen and Osttruppen reserves are now a LMG 34 upgrade, equal to an LMG 42 when in cover, for Osttruppen due to this ability being obsolete
Puma dispatch is now Hull Down due to this ability being obsolete.

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Rifleman
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-RA from .97 to 1

P47 Rocket Loiter is now replaced with a Rocket Strafe.

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Volks
Due to the slight overperforming nature of Volks,a minor tweak is needed.
-Cost from 250 to 260

Obers
New anti-tank package
-4 PzB AT rifles
-reduced anti infantry damage to increase damage vs vehicles.
-100 munitions

Since now with scaling and timing changed the free teching items are now require an upgrade.
-Infantry Weapons
150 manpower, 15 fuel
Unlocks the Flamegrenades, Panzerfausts, LMG 34s, MP40s, MP 44s, and Panzerschecks

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11 Mar 2017, 17:20 PMAngrade (Ægion)

-Infantry Armor Upgrade
150 manpower, 35 fuel
Pioneers, Grenadiers, Panzergrenadiers, Assault Grenadiers, and Stormtroopers gain 20 Health and .1 Armor. NOT Ostruppen

Giving additional health to infantry models is a huge change, since most weapons are standardized to deal a multiple of 80 damage. I honestly don't think that is a good idea. How about giving some squads a fifth man via an upgrade or veterancy?

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7 Apr 2017, 13:10 PMPlanet Smasher

Giving additional health to infantry models is a huge change, since most weapons are standardized to deal a multiple of 80 damage. I honestly don't think that is a good idea. How about giving some squads a fifth man via an upgrade or veterancy?

I am trying to make it so they generally have 25% more health like the five man squad upgrade with out the extra dps from a fifth man. Five men is actually way too much of a power creep for these squads. Perahaps a general armor upgrade would probably be better. Enough armor with RNG allowing for approximately 20% more health.

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