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Additionally, if he spent 800 manpower on 3 raketens you should be able to walk over him with infantry.
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You just have to screen with infantry and in general don't be too obvious with attacking head on into areas where the OKW player has a defensive front established. You also have to be careful not to repair tanks too close to the front line because good OKW players will use Vet 1 Rakens to creep forward while cloaked and finish off tanks.
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Raketten dies if you just fart in it's general direction.
Damage and set up time is atrocious, in that you can flank and take out whole squad with 1 shot
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Screening with infantry is a good advice, but I would also recommend using air scouts. They reveal all camouflaged units including snipers and raketens. Apart from that doing what you do is also a good idea - if you can force your opponent into building at least 2 raketens without commiting too much to armour yourself, you often will beat him with pure infantry advantage.
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I guess he is not joking. He just experienced playing against somebody who knows how to use raketens. They are very effective once a players stops to subbornly use them as if they were paks.
Screening with infantry is a good advice, but I would also recommend using air scouts. They reveal all camouflaged units including snipers and raketens. Apart from that doing what you do is also a good idea - if you can force your opponent into building at least 2 raketens without commiting too much to armour yourself, you often will beat him with pure infantry advantage.
This.
I've played against people who could use them, but every time I use them, they seem like they're not very good, particularly against UKF.
Screening with infantry and air scouting do a pretty good job of nullifying them, particularly with their short range.
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20% of the time they miss as well.
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I guess he is not joking. He just experienced playing against somebody who knows how to use raketens. They are very effective once a player stops to subbornly use them as if they were paks.
Screening with infantry is a good advice, but I would also recommend using air scouts. They reveal all camouflaged units including snipers and raketens. Apart from that doing what you do is also a good idea - if you can force your opponent into building at least 2 raketens without commiting too much to armour yourself, you often will beat him with pure infantry advantage.
thx i will try the air scouts, thanks for actually being helpful, I think some people imagine sort of strange scenarios here, he had two racketen and a panther, I had SU-85 and two T34-85's, we both had shit loads of infantry, obviously I tried flanking and infantry screening, that's why I lost, infantry screening against obersoldaten Mg's mines etc, guess what everyone, he couldn't infantry screen to well either for the same reason, the difference was he could retreat his racketen and hold ground
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thx i will try the air scouts, thanks for actually being helpful, I think some people imagine sort of strange scenarios here, he had two racketen and a panther, I had SU-85 and two T34-85's, we both had shit loads of infantry, obviously I tried flanking and infantry screening, that's why I lost, infantry screening against obersoldaten Mg's mines etc, guess what everyone, he couldn't infantry screen to well either for the same reason, the difference was he could retreat his racketen and hold ground
So you should have build a katyusha. Without replay, it is harder to figure out what the issue is.
You played vs someone better than you, take it as a lesson.
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So you should have build a katyusha. Without replay, it is harder to figure out what the issue is.
You played vs someone better than you, take it as a lesson.
that makes no sense, Its not a replay, I'm talking about, its consistently losing against OKW, I cant deal with the faction as Soviets
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that makes no sense, Its not a replay, I'm talking about, its consistently losing against OKW, I cant deal with the faction as Soviets
which means we need more replays to see where you fail. Racketens are probably the upper level side of the iceberg.
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which means we need more replays to see where you fail. Racketens are probably the upper level side of the iceberg.
yeah I agree, the one thing i wont do is play meta, so don't say partisans..lol, I have put a replay up in the strategy section which is a non racketen one
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that makes no sense, Its not a replay, I'm talking about, its consistently losing against OKW, I cant deal with the faction as Soviets
Sounds like you are playing on bad maps if you keep having this problem. You could try changing up your vetoes, AT walls are way more effective on maps where the fighting is close to the base sector.
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but then....
i dunno what to say...
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that makes no sense, Its not a replay, I'm talking about, its consistently losing against OKW, I cant deal with the faction as Soviets
Are you trolling? Soviets are why I don't play 1v1 as OKW right now. Penal spam into 1-2 Guards followed by T70. Wide-open maps aren't so bad but all of the new city maps with sight blockers make this match-up suck.
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Are you trolling? Soviets are why I don't play 1v1 as OKW right now. Penal spam into 1-2 Guards followed by T70. Wide-open maps aren't so bad but all of the new city maps with sight blockers make this match-up suck.
The thread has nothing to do with penals though; it's talking about the raketenwefer, and a Faust and/or 1-2 well-played raks can shut down a t70 real fast. I don't think the thread is about the entire soviet/okw matchup is balanced/tipped one way or the other, it's just asking how to deal with a specific aspect of fighting okw- the rak.
Sidenote: vet5 raketens are beasts, but super hard to get.
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The thread has nothing to do with penals though; it's talking about the raketenwefer, and a Faust and/or 1-2 well-played raks can shut down a t70 real fast. I don't think the thread is about the entire soviet/okw matchup is balanced/tipped one way or the other, it's just asking how to deal with a specific aspect of fighting okw- the rak.
Sidenote: vet5 raketens are beasts, but super hard to get.
assuming the raketen hits, which doesn't happen
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