Weekend Challenge: Stugs

Weeekend Challenge 27.07!

Make Stugs work!

-Hull Down+Smoke with PaK 43 support!
-Ambushing G43s as spotters!
-Scoped Stugs--> Elephant!
-Etc...

Make it happen! Lets break the meta!

Post replays of glorious victory!

I'm sure CCartS03 would have fun trying this. But hull down stugs suck as they can only shoot forward.

I incorporated stugs into my build orders last night- i lost 5 games in a row.


Are stugs beyond saving?

null you have forgotten about 1 more challenge:
kill an IS-2 with a stug

stug is good, against AI..

Make it happen guys!

Especially with creative Commander use.

Consider skipping either T1 or T2 to get Stugs out and on the field with necessary support!

oddly enough the stug has an upkeep of 10 (not including the 1.5 modifier) whereas the p4 and ostwind only have 8. Must be something they never changed from before the big vehicle patch.

Thanks for that important update.

Relic Devs: Seems you guys overlooked Stugs upkeep!

BUT regardless.

Mess around with Stugs guys. If nothing else, it will help us contribute in informed and experienced fashion about what this unit may need adjusted.

Who cares about win/loss.

I, Nullist, grant thee expediency to lose in the name of the Stug on this weekend!

still using stugs, still losing games, 7 games so far.

stugs r 4 thugs???!

maybe if i lose enough games my ELO will drop so i get to play against completely incompetent people- the only people stugs would work against

Compared to their benefits in COH1 (cheap, packed a punch, with the Kampkraft centre they had good D too) they are hopeless in COH2. The P4 is so much better, and yet the Russians can make the T70 work. It's disappointing to only have one sensible armour option as the Germans.

So far, barely keeping them alive, let alone killing anything. Expensive and useless methinks.

Gj Sir_muffin (related to the honourable CombatMuffin?).

Please, upload a replay or two with the title including "Stug", so those of use who havent time to play can l3arn from your attempts!

StuG III are just free experience for SU-85 breakfast

@Porygon: Ok, but show me! Try Stug+commander strategies!

@Porygon: Ok, but show me! Try Stug+commander strategies!

What is the purpose of trying to use an ultra-underpowered StuG III?

They are not like Wehr StuG IV, which is so good at killing anything in numbers

I've found some use for them sealing games I should win anyway (basically just getting a couple and trading one for the SU-85). Only really had one game where a StuG won it for me, and that was vs. a maxim-spammer->T-34 spammer with appalling vehicle micro.

Mass Stugs with P/Gren support! GOGO!

I think Jaeger Armor with the Spotting Scope has the best chance of making it useful.

Its lower fuel cost and longer range are its advantages, so using it with the intention of fast Tier 4 or saving fuel for a call-in tank (Elefant/Tiger) is best. Tactically, I'd use them like SU-85s. If you can keep them alive until Vet 2, they become drastically more survivable and can beat Vet 0/1 SU-85s one on one.

Try em Hull Down with Smoke and infantry spotting!
(And Pak43 behind em!)

Try em by skipping T2 with Gren G43 support!

Try em in with Scope and Recon -->Elephant as backing!

TRYTRYTRY! Make it happen, I know you can!

If I have an elephant why would I need STUGs? And I tried hulldown... abd Pak43. Sadly they are both countered by the same thing. Artillery. (And enemy tanks who outrange them.) (And they donÄt help you to secure anything) )=

I really love the idea of this Stug challenge, but well. It's damn hard. The best I've been able to come up with is to use as a support for the pz4 for when the almost inevitable moment where the su-85 is fielded. Given it's slightly better range and roughly 20% higher chance of penetrating su-85 front armor, it can apply some reliable pressure to an aggressive su-85. However with it's low amount of hitpoints you will have to do it very carefully if things aren't to end in disaster.

The arguably best scenario I can come up with is one where your stug has reached vet 1, make the su show it's side by running the pz4 in from the flank and land the stun shot on the su from the stug, giving the pz4 a great chance to get in behind the su. Facing fire from both the stug with a good chance to penetrate front armor and the pz4 behind it, the su should be dead in the water.
This could be an effective counter to the su-85 with t3, however it would take some practice, not to mention there should be other soviet units supporting the su-85 that would have to be pressured by support units of your own to give your pz4 a chance to actually escape in one piece. I know it's hypothetical and sounds a bit extreme, but I'll be trying to put this into practice and see if it can be pulled off effectively against players of at least my own level.