Ost mortar is too OP(Vickers HP bug)

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2017, 14:27 PMHighfiveeeee

• 120mm Sov mortar has more range + more damage + 6 men squads with the ability to survive with one man left (which is absolute BS). Though it is doctrinal and shoots slower.
  
  

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2017, 13:53 PMAradan

While on each side to enlarge an area of 25%. You get side of this sqaure 1,5x bigger.
You got a bug and it's still counting enlarged on one side only.

(1.25 * x + 1.25 * |-x|) so you can not count so, you ought to result in extra one entire side x, no?

(2*(0,25*X)+X) * (2*(0,25 *Y)+Y)

For example, Square 2*2 = area 4 units
25% bigger side on each side means square 3*3 = area 9 units (125% greater)

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2017, 14:53 PMZombiFrancis

Think radius, not diameter. (Since that what is being simulated by trapezoidal scatter values.)

The value of 2 is increased by 25% twice, separately. Once for each direction on the axis. 25% of its base value is added to each end, which adds .5 to each side of 2. making 3.

(Now I don't know if this is how the engine works, but it's how the math he's doing works.)

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2017, 15:07 PMMr.Smith

Let's do concrete values. Let's say that horizontal scatter is 1 on each direction, and vertical scatter is 2 on each direction.

That gives us a square which has size (|-1| + 1) * (|-2| + 2) = 2 * 4 = 8

Now, we increase all scatter values by, say, 25%. That means that 1 gets displaced to 1.25 and 2 gets displaced to 2.5. The area of this would be:
(|-1.25| + 1.25) * (|-2.5| + 2.5) = 2.5 * 5 = 12.5

Thus, the net increase is 56.25%.

Alternatively, you could have calculated the net increase directly, by simply raising the 1-D difference to the square (1.25 = 1.25 = 1.5625

In the case of your trapezoid example, the 2 is the diameter. Thus, 1 is the radius. Thus, a 25% increase will still increase both the radius and the diameter by 25%.

Regardless of whether you multiply the whole value by 1.25, or multiply both halfs by the same amount and them add them together, the result will still be the same!

Jump back to quoted post23 Jan 2017, 09:44 AMNeris

Brits mortar do same thing (snipe units with 1 or 2 shots while squad is concentrated in one place), Soviets too, USF too. What is the point?

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2017, 16:48 PMBravus

All mortars are op now...

Looks like coh2 mortars have gps, but gps in 2n war???

And german stationary art is useless, enemy run into it and call some p2w art (without vision strikes) and kill it, or just get a rocket truck and kill ez.

If you put a art in 20 meters of your base maybe they dont get killed but dont kill anything too.

Edit: a match now, with 2 squad stormpioner at 10 meters of a 6 man mortar in 5 seconds dont kill anything, and no damage, i retry because are conscripts... In same game, a 2 squad pioner and one with bazooka, fire a 3 man usf mortar, and fire fire, and dont kill and no damage, 2 bazookas shots in head of the guys and no damage... Things like that make me see how this game are total arcade, no %1 of realism...