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kingdun3284
12 Jan 2017, 12:43 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jan 2017, 12:36 PMISuckAtVideoGames


USF shouldn't recieve a mortar to begin with. But that's not the point.


Rifles beat Grens in vacum, thats why Ost is built around superior (in theory) support weapons to compensate that.


There must be something to be done to fix this issue, because UKF is designed to be even more static than Ost. Ost mortar just completely forbid any team weapon play and tommy's cover play of UKF at the beginning.
Either nerf ost mortar or buff UKF's opening is needed.
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DonnieChan
12 Jan 2017, 12:44 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jan 2017, 12:26 PMkingdun3284

No, UKF is the weakest faction. A crippled faction without any heavy tank and mobile artillery and cheap TD.


this guy is a troll. Stop answering and giving him stage please
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JackDickolson
12 Jan 2017, 12:47 PM
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[00:00:38] Axis is OP, players are retarded: first retarder speaking
[00:00:53] Axis is OP, players are retarded: how's about remaining 3?
[00:10:23] Axis is OP, players are retarded: STFU
[00:10:24] Axis is OP, players are retarded: hacker
[00:10:59] Axis is OP, players are retarded: STFU
[00:11:03] Axis is OP, players are retarded: chinese hacker
[00:11:04] Axis is OP, players are retarded: l2p
[00:13:27] Axis is OP, players are retarded: ostheer mortar rng hack
[00:13:29] Axis is OP, players are retarded: garden you
[00:13:37] Axis is OP, players are retarded: 2B
[00:14:16] Axis is OP, players are retarded: using hack
[00:14:18] Axis is OP, players are retarded: of course
[00:14:20] Axis is OP, players are retarded: id iot
[00:14:25] Axis is OP, players are retarded: l2p
[00:14:46] Axis is OP, players are retarded: just stfu
[00:14:47] Axis is OP, players are retarded: hacker
[00:15:22] Axis is OP, players are retarded: reported
[00:15:23] Axis is OP, players are retarded: noob
[00:15:23] Axis is OP, players are retarded: l2p
[00:15:28] Axis is OP, players are retarded: you finally admit your crime
[00:15:29] Axis is OP, players are retarded: l2p
[00:17:00] Axis is OP, players are retarded: wait to be banned
[00:17:01] Axis is OP, players are retarded: noob




People like this are the reason so many people abandon this game and run for their life. Pure toxicity and bitterness.
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kingdun3284
12 Jan 2017, 12:48 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jan 2017, 12:44 PMDonnieChan


this guy is a troll. Stop answering and giving him stage please


Talking about facts is a troll? Nothing is more like a troll than your meaningless reply.
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Sturmpanther
12 Jan 2017, 12:48 PM
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It seems to be a Bug i guess. That the mg crew dies ok, but I agree, the mg self should survived. It was full repaired!


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kingdun3284
12 Jan 2017, 12:52 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jan 2017, 12:47 PMJackDickolson



People like this are the reason so many people abandon this game and run for their life. Pure toxicity and bitterness.


So you are simply ignoring the reasons so many people abandon this game and run for their life due to bugs and imbalance that make them feel rage.
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ISuckAtVideoGames
12 Jan 2017, 13:01 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jan 2017, 12:43 PMkingdun3284


There must be something to be done to fix this issue, because UKF is designed to be even more static than Ost. Ost mortar just completely forbid any team weapon play and tommy's cover play of UKF at the beginning.
Either nerf ost mortar or buff UKF's opening is needed.


have you read my previous post or you will just pretend the point I've made is non-existant?

Here, I'll save you some time looking and repost that part:

Rifles and Infantry sections beat Grens in vacum, thats why Ost is built around superior (in theory) support weapons to compensate that.


EDIT:

[00:00:38] Axis is OP, players are retarded: first retarder speaking
[00:00:53] Axis is OP, players are retarded: how's about remaining 3?
[00:10:23] Axis is OP, players are retarded: STFU
[00:10:24] Axis is OP, players are retarded: hacker
[00:10:59] Axis is OP, players are retarded: STFU
[00:11:03] Axis is OP, players are retarded: chinese hacker
[00:11:04] Axis is OP, players are retarded: l2p
[00:13:27] Axis is OP, players are retarded: ostheer mortar rng hack
[00:13:29] Axis is OP, players are retarded: garden you
[00:13:37] Axis is OP, players are retarded: 2B
[00:14:16] Axis is OP, players are retarded: using hack
[00:14:18] Axis is OP, players are retarded: of course
[00:14:20] Axis is OP, players are retarded: id iot
[00:14:25] Axis is OP, players are retarded: l2p
[00:14:46] Axis is OP, players are retarded: just stfu
[00:14:47] Axis is OP, players are retarded: hacker
[00:15:22] Axis is OP, players are retarded: reported
[00:15:23] Axis is OP, players are retarded: noob
[00:15:23] Axis is OP, players are retarded: l2p
[00:15:28] Axis is OP, players are retarded: you finally admit your crime
[00:15:29] Axis is OP, players are retarded: l2p
[00:17:00] Axis is OP, players are retarded: wait to be banned
[00:17:01] Axis is OP, players are retarded: noob



I knew I should have dropped the topic after "UKF weakest faction bullshit" some people shouldn't be allowed to play multiplayer games.
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kingdun3284
12 Jan 2017, 13:09 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jan 2017, 13:01 PMISuckAtVideoGames


have you read my previous post or you will just pretend the point I've made is non-existant?

Here, I'll save you some time looking and repost that part:



EDIT:



I knew I should have dropped the topic after "UKF weakest faction bullshit" some people shouldn't be allowed to play multiplayer games.


I have read of course. I agree some of it. So if they are not going to touch the mortar of ost, they need to buff the opening of UKF such as giving UKF to build sniper at the beginning.

And the chat record is simply not complete, do you think it is reasonable for me just keep typing myself without any reason?
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Dangerous-Cloth
12 Jan 2017, 13:15 PM
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lol troll of the year award is going strong this early in the year already
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elchino7
12 Jan 2017, 13:38 PM
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Moving to bug section and changing title.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.

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le_saucisson_masque
12 Jan 2017, 15:53 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jan 2017, 12:12 PMkingdun3284

Learn to dodge a mortar shell with a vicker? Are you okay? Go to see a doctor if it is needed.


congratulation, you gave me cancer.

Keep asking for mortar nerf, i am SURE that someone will listen to you :thumb:.
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some one
12 Jan 2017, 16:14 PM
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I would vote to give Brits 120s mortar instead of Mortor Pit
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5trategos
12 Jan 2017, 16:35 PM
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This is a Brit problem more than a OST balance problem.

I've been playing Brits exclusively (1v1) for a couple of weeks now and they really struggle at dealing with heavy support weapon play as their low movement speed makes them terrible flankers. The lack of mobile arty means they can't counter barrage or smoke outside of a fixed radius. The mortar pit is overpriced and can generally be ignored or destroyed pretty easily.

Really, there's no reason to do anything in their build order other than stall for a Comet and farm its vet 1 ability. Once you get there, you can turn the game. Everything before that is a slow death spiral.
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Imagelessbean
12 Jan 2017, 17:13 PM
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The ost mortar was also shooting at a spotted unit, increasing its accuracy.

The MG disappeared along with the model that was carrying it so I suspect something happened that teleported them out of the map, a clipping bug of some sort. What ended up happening was that you were down an MG when you should have been down a crew.

As a general rule, if you are going to fight Ost mortars you should not allow your MG to set up in such a position that the crew is clumped as it was.

On that map fighting for that VP and point are also near worthless as you gain almost nothing and he has green cover and narrow approaches to guard the points. One MG can protect two approaches, and be in green cover and another can guard the other approach and also sit in green cover. Getting them out will require, for the brits a 610 mp investment (mortar and engineer) just to get started pushing him out and assuming he sends 0 support to help his MG. Put pressure on his fuel.
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Aradan
13 Jan 2017, 05:08 AM
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Some alteration is need. Ost mortar have pin point accuracy and wipe squads too frequently.
I want to have the same chance, to win for each side.
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Plaguer
13 Jan 2017, 07:33 AM
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Since this thread is very super serious and stuff and not troll at all let's go, ukf needs to have a double 120s in their mortar pit and a 6 man crew on vickers, also I once saw that my ISU got killed by a JT so I think that it would be nice to give the ISU the "BL-10" gun, which is a high velocity 152mm cannon. This is what we need to do to balance the game out

But maybe, you should realize that the game is buggy, stuff like that happends and it's nothing new really...
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ullumulu
13 Jan 2017, 08:48 AM
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As a axis player..i can say: same happen in much games vs brit cancer emplacments...

mortar pits double morta hit a sqaud...instant wipe.
bofors turns so fast its turrent...i can wipe 3 squads on retreat...



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DonnieChan
13 Jan 2017, 09:17 AM
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why isn't THIS thread closed yet???

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