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Why jesulin surrendered ?

12 Oct 2016, 18:11 PM
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he says after the game that he had no medic in the base and his conscripts were in poor health .

but it was like very early game , he could replace them and carry on an attack , it seems he attacked once then was pushed back then surrendered .
12 Oct 2016, 18:20 PM
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Because Jesulin sucks. You did not know?


12 Oct 2016, 18:42 PM
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12 Oct 2016, 18:43 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Oct 2016, 18:20 PMjesulin
Because Jesulin sucks. You did not know?




cmon broh, you may have a good reason to surrender, it doesn t give you the right to look down on this guy.
this guy just asks a legitmate question, if you don t want to answer then do the same that devm :

take your money and gtfo :oops:
12 Oct 2016, 20:07 PM
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13 Oct 2016, 12:26 PM
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Because Jesulin was fine with the money for the 2nd place!
13 Oct 2016, 12:38 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Oct 2016, 18:20 PMjesulin
Because Jesulin sucks. You did not know?




you said it , not me .

were you afraid ? panic attack ? what was it ?

you still had a chance .
13 Oct 2016, 12:39 PM
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where can we check the games?


The replays are here in the replay section. Links are in this thread.

The twitch casts are on Relics twitch channel.

tightrope casted the first two games, you can find those on youtube.

13 Oct 2016, 13:01 PM
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Lul Gl to fight vs ostheer full limit with 3 squads. Its call snowball.
13 Oct 2016, 14:29 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Oct 2016, 12:38 PMafrrs


you said it , not me .

were you afraid ? panic attack ? what was it ?

you still had a chance .


IIRC:

While the game was still on pretty much an early stage, it was almost over after that push. Reminder that he was facing DevM which is mostly a 20min game player.

Hypothetical situations:
-If he hadn't lost anything or just the M3 for both snipers, he would had been ahead.
-One sniper for the M3 ? Both snipers for M3 and the Penal? Almost even.

Any other result was him been further behind. On that push he got only 1 sniper and the medic bunker. He lost the engineers (early on to the MG42), the vet Penal on retreat and heavily bleed the Guards (?) to the MG42. Even with an "even" result, he was still playing from behind and needed to move the game to a later stage where veterancy on his units and tanks might put him back into the game.

He end up with 3 squads, each of them needing reinforcement, no tech past T1 (no engineer as well) and one sniper was still alive. Devm could easily rebuild a 2nd sniper and he wouldn't had another shot with an M3 rush at that stage of the game. This leaves to either a lucky 120mm shot to kill the sniper (not even if they are at full health) or trying to counter-snipe with the clunky soviet sniper (which is impossible if he properly uses recloak technique -shooting from out of cover into cover-).


What could have gone differently on that push? Reminder that this can only be easily said from outside (no final pressure) and from slowing down the replay.

-Not losing the engineers (retreat) on that frontal push. M3 could had still yolorush.
-I'm not sure if there was a Guard or penal at the right muni, which could had flanked the MG42 on the middle (which could had later save the Penals on retreat)
-Same can be said for the Guards fighting at the left muni approaching the MG42
-MAYBE using hoorah to catch up with the 2nd sniper when merry go round at HQ.
13 Oct 2016, 14:51 PM
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Jesulin answered this question after the match. Wait for Generals Gentleman to upload the video and take a look.
Elchino7 said most of the reasons, plus Jesulin had no Medics (what he said).
13 Oct 2016, 15:00 PM
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The replays are here in the replay section. Links are in this thread.

The twitch casts are on Relics twitch channel.

tightrope casted the first two games, you can find those on youtube.


thanks for the nice answer
13 Oct 2016, 19:12 PM
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Just to add one thing to Elchino's excellent post: the death of the engineers forced the rebuild of engineers to tech. Without the tech you are looking at holding out with scripts against Stug E's, not much hope there. Also if he had gone engineers he would have skipped medics.
13 Oct 2016, 20:02 PM
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I think he could feel Quinn Duffy's eyes burning a hole in the back of his head.
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