hitler should had stayed put and stick with france only , he had france and the balkans already
, if stalin attaked first maybe the uk would join along side the germans to repel the soviets from taking territory further into europe .
thats was one of his mistakes during his ruling .
Adolf Hitler Mistakes
18 Sep 2016, 04:34 AM
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'' terror belli , decus pacis ''
18 Sep 2016, 05:07 AM
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Even If Soviets attacked Germans first, UK will never fight among side with a country which is already at war with. That's just common sense. It's not like alien invasion of the world. Just another different political agenda.
18 Sep 2016, 08:14 AM
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Also, again, Britain does not want a Europe dominated by a single power; so there is no way it would have been content to simply let Germany have Poland, the Balkans, and piece of France too.
But this is a pointless question, because Hitler was pretty much one big bag of mistakes. His entire understanding to the world, as articulated in Mein Kampf, is just plain wrong.
These are after all people who rejected Einstien's theory of relativity because it was "Jewish Science" and invented a completely fictitious "Ice World" cosmology as being more congenial to their ideology. The SS had an honourary officer - a Major I think - because he claimed to be the reincarnated spirit of an ancient Germanic king. They renovated Wewelsburg castle, at a time when they had much more pressing military uses for those resources, because of some prophecy about how it would be site of a noble last stand.
Expecting the Nazis to make reasonable, logical decisions is a waste of time, because that is not what they are about.
But this is a pointless question, because Hitler was pretty much one big bag of mistakes. His entire understanding to the world, as articulated in Mein Kampf, is just plain wrong.
These are after all people who rejected Einstien's theory of relativity because it was "Jewish Science" and invented a completely fictitious "Ice World" cosmology as being more congenial to their ideology. The SS had an honourary officer - a Major I think - because he claimed to be the reincarnated spirit of an ancient Germanic king. They renovated Wewelsburg castle, at a time when they had much more pressing military uses for those resources, because of some prophecy about how it would be site of a noble last stand.
Expecting the Nazis to make reasonable, logical decisions is a waste of time, because that is not what they are about.
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18 Sep 2016, 09:48 AM
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hitler should had stayed put and stick with france only , he had france and the balkans already
, if stalin attaked first maybe the uk would join along side the germans to repel the soviets from taking territory further into europe .
thats was one of his mistakes during his ruling .
Thats the reason why the UK entered war against the soviet union when they attacked finnland... oh wait.
This topic/thread is so useless. This man made so much mistakes.
To analyse this mistakes you could fill a library with books and papers. Historians tried to do this and they still havent analysed the basics.
So your post is already a commonplace.
"When he would have stay and annex france" => He wasnt interested in France at all. They declared war against germany. Thats the reason for the war against france. Hitler's political ideology have to end in a nightmare.
18 Sep 2016, 10:00 AM
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There was one big misteake. Making Tigers, King Tigers, Jadgs and tons of other huge prototypes intead of mass production of Pz 4s.
What's easier for enemy. Fighting 10 Tigers or 50 P4s?
It's not like allies won becasue of superior armor...
What's easier for enemy. Fighting 10 Tigers or 50 P4s?
It's not like allies won becasue of superior armor...
18 Sep 2016, 10:21 AM
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Arthur C. Clarke wrote a short story called 'Superiority' riffing on exactly that error:
http://www.mayofamily.com/RLM/txt_Clarke_Superiority.html
http://www.mayofamily.com/RLM/txt_Clarke_Superiority.html
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18 Sep 2016, 11:39 AM
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There was one big misteake. Making Tigers, King Tigers, Jadgs and tons of other huge prototypes intead of mass production of Pz 4s.
What's easier for enemy. Fighting 10 Tigers or 50 P4s?
It's not like allies won becasue of superior armor...
arent yout forggeting about the fuel ? they were already low in fuel by the time of the kursk offensive , so more tanks means more fuel .
'' terror belli , decus pacis ''
18 Sep 2016, 11:39 AM
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Well you can´t go against the will of your Industrialist and financial backers now can you. If you do, you end up like Hitler 
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18 Sep 2016, 11:45 AM
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arent yout forggeting about the fuel ? they were already low in fuel by the time of the kursk offensive , so more tanks means more fuel .
Tiger uses around 1040 L / 100 miles.
Panzer 4 450L / 100 miles
Still, Kursk was already a bit too late to switch from heavy tanks to 100% medium.
18 Sep 2016, 12:52 PM
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Permanently BannedThere was one big misteake. Making Tigers, King Tigers, Jadgs and tons of other huge prototypes intead of mass production of Pz 4s.
What's easier for enemy. Fighting 10 Tigers or 50 P4s?
It's not like allies won becasue of superior armor...
I feel make heavy linkors was mistakes too (maybe even submarine) (coz its so many tonns of good steel, that can go for tanks). But when you in war in factory dont makes somthing for army you will be suck.
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18 Sep 2016, 13:35 PM
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Hitlers mistake was following his dog out of that trench in WW1.
18 Sep 2016, 13:46 PM
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Hitlers mistake was following his dog out of that trench in WW1.
lol , good one , the dog went out of the bunker , hitler followed him to catch him , and then the bunker that hitler was in was hit by a shell .
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18 Sep 2016, 13:53 PM
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Hitlers mistake was following his dog out of that trench in WW1.
i came here to post this. I feel late.
18 Sep 2016, 14:12 PM
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On a serious note, Hitler should never have started the war with Russia when the UK was at his back. It gave the US a landing and preparation place to invade the mainland. If the US couldn't land troops in Europe it probably would focused its efforts in the East.
Taking out the UK would also have stopped the strategic bombing of German industry and the lend-lease to Russia (or at least made it easier to attack the supply coming form the US).
After that the same old Hitler should have let his generals fight the war and, miss-allocation of resources and of command etc etc.
Taking out the UK would also have stopped the strategic bombing of German industry and the lend-lease to Russia (or at least made it easier to attack the supply coming form the US).
After that the same old Hitler should have let his generals fight the war and, miss-allocation of resources and of command etc etc.
18 Sep 2016, 14:26 PM
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The whole Nazis ideology is bonking in the head since the beginning so even if Hitler contended to stay in Germany, all the infighting will grind the nation to the ground.
18 Sep 2016, 17:57 PM
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On a serious note, Hitler should never have started the war with Russia when the UK was at his back. It gave the US a landing and preparation place to invade the mainland. If the US couldn't land troops in Europe it probably would focused its efforts in the East.
Taking out the UK would also have stopped the strategic bombing of German industry and the lend-lease to Russia (or at least made it easier to attack the supply coming form the US).
After that the same old Hitler should have let his generals fight the war and, miss-allocation of resources and of command etc etc.
But Soviets would have
It was like:
A - let's attack them when they are not 100% ready.
B - wait until they are ready and let them attack us.
19 Sep 2016, 09:46 AM
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[Barbarossa] The Major Errors and Blunders - Or why Barbarossa Failed
'' terror belli , decus pacis ''
19 Sep 2016, 10:38 AM
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Hitler fucked up when he decided to fight the British Empire. The most important thing to remember is that naval power is extremely important. The Germans made the mistake of engaging the British when they themselves had no navy.
The Germans comically planned everything but the naval aspect of defeating the British. How were the Germans going to actually land troops in the UK/Canada/Australia and also defeat the Royal Navy if their Navy was pathetically weak compared to the RN? They weren't.
The Germans lost before it even started. You can't fight the British Empire without a good navy, and it's one of the things the Germans have neglected for most of their history. I don't think I can recall a time where the Germans had a decent Navy, yet they decided to try and fight the British without one? EL o el.
That was the biggest mistake Hitler made I think. Invading Russia while abandoning his invasion of the British Empire was also another critical mistake.
The Germans comically planned everything but the naval aspect of defeating the British. How were the Germans going to actually land troops in the UK/Canada/Australia and also defeat the Royal Navy if their Navy was pathetically weak compared to the RN? They weren't.
The Germans lost before it even started. You can't fight the British Empire without a good navy, and it's one of the things the Germans have neglected for most of their history. I don't think I can recall a time where the Germans had a decent Navy, yet they decided to try and fight the British without one? EL o el.
That was the biggest mistake Hitler made I think. Invading Russia while abandoning his invasion of the British Empire was also another critical mistake.
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19 Jan 2017, 14:08 PM
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Most of Hitler's mistakes were because of his insanity and emotion driven decisions. He should have kept bombing the airfields and radio stations in Battle of Britain, but decided to start bombing London which was an emotional decision.
He was also stupid to waste so many resources on prosecuting & killing Jews and chasing them away, including Einstein!
If he could have won the Battle of Britain, the situation would be different, with Britain surrendered/isolated with total Luftwaffe air superiority. Wait a bit longer before launching Barbarossa and eventually "out-tech" everyone with me262's mass produced.
But then again, USA would still get nuke and probably WWII turns into nukes in Europe and Japan and even more people die.
Its all just speculation, but many situations would only have prolonged the war causing more deaths.
Moral of the story - war is hell. War is shit.
He was also stupid to waste so many resources on prosecuting & killing Jews and chasing them away, including Einstein!
If he could have won the Battle of Britain, the situation would be different, with Britain surrendered/isolated with total Luftwaffe air superiority. Wait a bit longer before launching Barbarossa and eventually "out-tech" everyone with me262's mass produced.
But then again, USA would still get nuke and probably WWII turns into nukes in Europe and Japan and even more people die.
Its all just speculation, but many situations would only have prolonged the war causing more deaths.
Moral of the story - war is hell. War is shit.
19 Jan 2017, 14:50 PM
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There are countless mistakes like not getting Ukraine(who hated and were ready to fight the Soviets) on side, due to Nazi ideology which classed them as slavs meaning they were not fit as allies.
Also Hitler making numerous strategic errors and not letting his generals take complete control of fighting during the war was a huge blunder.
Stalin recognised just before the battle of Moscow that he was not fit to make military decisions (massive losses of early operation Barbarossa) and that he should let his generals take charge, Hitler should have done the same. After all Hitler had only reached the rank of Corporal in WW1 but in WW2 he acted like he was an experienced field marshal.
Also Hitler making numerous strategic errors and not letting his generals take complete control of fighting during the war was a huge blunder.
Stalin recognised just before the battle of Moscow that he was not fit to make military decisions (massive losses of early operation Barbarossa) and that he should let his generals take charge, Hitler should have done the same. After all Hitler had only reached the rank of Corporal in WW1 but in WW2 he acted like he was an experienced field marshal.
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