Schwerer Flak Truck Balance ideas

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2016, 13:11 PMBrassatko

So it's giving Allies a headache not to be able to use all that stuff with impunity. That doesn't mean it is unbalanced as such. Make a decision if and when you use a drop. Maybe occupy the Flak HK with a tank meanwhile? Or take it out, it is not indestructible. It can as well become a liability in the wrong place where your pios are repairing it more than doing anything else.

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2016, 06:24 AMEsxile

lul, but aside from funny arguments, do you have some intelligent ones?

Now about your idea of removing Lt/cpt/Major from teching, Australian and Katikof are right, that would actually become a boost and new strategies in some aspect of the USF gameplay, even more with the new mortar. And I'm only talking in its formal state and prices.

But if we are at removing factions things from teching because that's the only base on your defensive argumentation, how much do we price everything Ostheer get with teching cuz, LMG/pfaust/grenades unlock are actually as free as lt/cpt/Major and bring as much as powerlevel to Ostheer T1/T2 .

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2016, 00:01 AMSmiling Tiger

The major has a recon ability so this isnt just a non doc issue it is an issue about how the much the Schwerer gun controls the other player. Think about it the Schwerer is a gun that cancels doctrinal abilities

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2016, 08:54 AMZyllen

Repeating this over and over doesn't make it any more true.

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2016, 09:37 AMAustralian Magic

While it is true.
But because yiy are so axis biased I had to make a test.

Schwerer vs P47 attacking KT

Salvo:
I - 1 (plane) killed after first wave.
II - 1 killed after third wave.
III - none
IV - 1 killed after first wave.
V - 1 killed after first wave, 1 killed after second wave.
VI - 1 killed after second wave.
VII - 1 killed after second wave.
VIII - 2 killed after second wave

And this is just 1 Schwerer. Imagine 2v2 game with 2 Schwerer and 4 flak bases guns.

Now, let's take a look at Quad.

Quad vs JU loiter attacking IS2
Salvo:
I - 1 killed after second wave.
II - None killed (IS2 killed after second wave and Quad killed during third )
III - 1 killed after third wave.
IV - None killed.
V - 1 killed after first wave.
VI - 1 killed after second wave.
VII - none killed.
VIII - 1 killed after second wave.

So, tell me one more time that Schwerer does nothing against planes and does not prevent frm using air abilities.

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2016, 09:37 AMAustralian Magic

So, tell me one more time that Schwerer does nothing against planes and does not prevent frm using air abilities.

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2016, 09:37 AMAustralian Magic

While it is true.
But because yiy are so axis biased I had to make a test.

Schwerer vs P47 attacking KT

Salvo:
I - 1 (plane) killed after first wave.
II - 1 killed after third wave.
III - none
IV - 1 killed after first wave.
V - 1 killed after first wave, 1 killed after second wave.
VI - 1 killed after second wave.
VII - 1 killed after second wave.
VIII - 2 killed after second wave

And this is just 1 Schwerer. Imagine 2v2 game with 2 Schwerer and 4 flak bases guns.

Now, let's take a look at Quad.

Quad vs JU loiter attacking IS2
Salvo:
I - 1 killed after second wave.
II - None killed (IS2 killed after second wave and Quad killed during third )
III - 1 killed after third wave.
IV - None killed.
V - 1 killed after first wave.
VI - 1 killed after second wave.
VII - none killed.
VIII - 1 killed after second wave.

So, tell me one more time that Schwerer does nothing against planes and does not prevent frm using air abilities.

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2016, 13:36 PMSUCKmyCLOCK

While I commend your apparent effort at testing this, it is absolutely unequivocally useless without proof?!

Are we supposed to just take your word for it?

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2016, 13:40 PMAustralian Magic

My word is a proof.

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2016, 13:42 PMSUCKmyCLOCK

No its not, it never has or will be. What a lovely world it would be if everyone was taken at their word.

If you are going to make factual statements about balance etc and want people to believe your results, then just post them? What is the problem here?

Would that not be the easy part after spending something like 30 - 60 mins doing the test?

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2016, 13:48 PMAustralian Magic

Then go on, and do it.

I done it numbers of times and I don't need to do it anymore to satisfy you.

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2016, 13:51 PMSUCKmyCLOCK

But why would I do it? I have not made any statement on wanting to or already having done a test.

You apparently already have (lulz), you are the person making the "factual statements" on YOUR test?

Why don't you simply post the results? I just don't understand why you don't post it, if you did indeed do the tests as you said you did?

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2016, 13:54 PMAustralian Magic

Why? Becasue I have made a statement and you are saying that maybe it's not true, so it's up to you to prove that I'm lying, not up to me to prove I'm syaing truth.

I did post the results. But I don't find making a video worth for such thread since everyone who plays the game know how Scherwer and Quad act versus planes.

Apparntly you don't know.

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2016, 13:59 PMSUCKmyCLOCK

What do you think this is a High Court Trial??

It would appear to me that you did not actually test this, that you simply made it all up to support your views. Otherwise you would post your results

All I ask is that in future please don't lie, its toxic. Hell maybe now you can actually do the tests and have the proof, I hope you do it would look great!

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2016, 14:01 PMAustralian Magic

Yes, becasue I work in court

I posted results. It's your problem that you don't trust me and it's up to you to prove I'm wrong.

Now that you said I lie, I have to ask you for proof for that. You know, if you did your tests and figured out I lied, why didn't you post results as a proof for my lies?

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2016, 14:07 PMSUCKmyCLOCK

Its not that I don't trust you, its that your apparent results are totally useless without proof?

Do you not understand how experiments work?

Again let me just reiterate, if you are going to make "factual statements" about "test" you have done on a balance forum you need to post a replay with the proof. Otherwise your results are simply worthless and absolutely nobody can believe you......

As would appear to be the case in this instance. Stop trying to deflect and dodge with silly emojis

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2016, 14:10 PMAustralian Magic

You said I lied, so it means you did you own tests so why didnt you post video of them?

That's it. Sorry but I don't have time to spare for trolls