Let's Test! 45mm ATG, Sd.Kfz 222, andISG performance

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2016, 09:40 AMTiger Baron

You mean to tell me a clone of the German GranatWerfer 34 would break the balance more than the 115 range double mortar pit? You've got to be kidding me, you are aware that mobile mortar crews die like flies to anything that touches them, right?

Like fucking seriously ask any Wehr, Soviet or now USF player on how easy mortar crews die.

No sorry I'm not going to take you seriously on this one, I'm done.

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2016, 11:02 AMFiresparks

mortars (and artillery) in general get accuracy bonus firing at sighted target. (technically it's a penalty firing into FOW).

scout units are generally fragile and specialized. Most of the time, artillery support is either barraging inaccurately into FOW or when your own troops is in a firefight.

the british get sight bonus upgrade on its line infantry and medium tank. this make it easier for british to get sight without risk of return fire or needing to get specialized unit.

British with mobile mortar can basically creep their way without coming under fire.

and I've always said that that autofire range on the mortar emplacement need a nerf. I've already suggested in the somewhat old thread I posted

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2016, 11:54 AMTiger Baron

Wait so every time I capture a German mortar as a Brit I'm actually OP?

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2016, 12:19 PMFiresparks

being able to build your own is different from spoils of war.

soviet mg42 crew get a 6 men crew, but most people accept it as result of soviet winning the fight.

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2016, 12:58 PMSvanh

Arguing that a UKF mortar squad would be OP due to UKF's abundant scouting bonuses is to ignore that an extremely durable emplacement with a 115 auto-fire range, requiring no micro, is already a stock feature of the faction.

Jump back to quoted post12 Aug 2016, 13:41 PMsuuuhdude

More long range anti infantry for allies. Funny how allies have so many superb long range units. AI and AT. Even though the germans were always the long range combatants if ww2.

Jump back to quoted post12 Aug 2016, 14:05 PMVuther

So you regard keeping the 45mm ATG shit as an important priority?

Jump back to quoted post12 Aug 2016, 14:05 PMVuther

So you regard keeping the 45mm ATG shit as an important priority?

Jump back to quoted post12 Aug 2016, 13:11 PMFiresparks

this entire discussion is because the british emplacement is a problem to begin with. Replacing the mortar emplacement with an ostheer mortar clone would introduce new problem.

Jump back to quoted post13 Aug 2016, 01:36 AMFiresparks

fixing the 45mm is pretty low priority. Yes, the 45mm is crap, but the soviet isn't really in need of a good atg or a 60 meters infantry sniper.

they already have decent mg, mortar, and atg to begin with. I can see buffing the 45mm to a decent pure atg as a boost to special rifle building. Some sort of 57mm lite.