Design Suggestion re USF vehicles (less bugs)

Jump back to quoted post26 Jun 2016, 20:22 PMJunaid

There. Same functionality. Less bugs. (The other 3 all have tested implementation and more importantly no bugs have been reported on them yet)

Jump back to quoted post26 Jun 2016, 20:22 PMJunaid

There. Same functionality. Less bugs. (The other 3 all have tested implementation and more importantly no bugs have been reported on them yet)

Jump back to quoted post27 Jun 2016, 12:23 PMCartoonVillain

You'd think that, but this being Relic we're talking about, the end result would be:

- Self repair: has 1/4 the advertised repair speed, but causes the tank to fly when activated
- Critical repair: causes critical engine damage instead of fixing it
- Cap territory: has the wrong icon and does nothing

Jump back to quoted post27 Jun 2016, 12:13 PMElSlayer

I wouldn't be so sure after what we saw recently.

Would there be enough slots on panel for all these abilities + existing one?
Also - vehicle crew thompsons?

Jump back to quoted post27 Jun 2016, 13:34 PMKatitof

Or you can just fix bugs without removing of core mechanic of the army which was designed around it.

Jump back to quoted post26 Jun 2016, 20:22 PMJunaid

So, USF vehicle crews have been a great source of bugs ever since the release of USF. From popcap abuse, to on me bug to the latest combined arms bug.

Now, since relic appears to be resource poor in terms of QA hours i feel it will continue to be a source of bugs in future esp as more focus shifts to dow3.

So i have a simple suggestion:

Remove vehicle crews and crewing/decrewing mechanic entirely and give all usf vehicles 3 abilities:

Self repair (similar to t70 but repping more HP)
Critical repair (vet1)
Cap territory.

There. Same functionality. Less bugs. (The other 3 all have tested implementation and more importantly no bugs have been reported on them yet)

Jump back to quoted post27 Jun 2016, 14:47 PMbicho1

if you wanna take the crew then buf USF armore !!!we had USF vehicle crews you wanna take this the litle tiny good thing we had you wanna take it from us !!!

then youll have to buf USF armore !!!

Jump back to quoted post27 Jun 2016, 14:32 PM__deleted__

But point of usa repair is risk/ reward mechanic .

You may repair close to line and spend less time driving (more time for shoting) and risk losing vehicle even to infantry (2 member gone = free vehicle) if youre not cautious

Or go back to base and repair it safe but lose momentum and time vehicle is on field until its counters arrive.


Changing it to repair like t34/85 have would be ridiculous. Not forgoting, that you cannot stpo repair once tank is attacked ...

Jump back to quoted post28 Jun 2016, 17:03 PMJunaid

they could add abandon crit if attacked by anything while repping maybe? (same as old sturmtiger reload abandon) but i feel that thats a really minor risk. in hundreds of games ive only managed to decrew a repairing usf vehicle a handful of times.

the t85 thing you mentioned, that i dont have an answer for. allow it to move while repping like t70?

tbh im just sick of relic effing up with spectacular balance breaking bugs on this one game mechanic. its really testament to their abysmal qa/programming that i even made this suggestion; because its nothing more than a workaround.

Jump back to quoted post28 Jun 2016, 17:44 PM__deleted__

Ability is fine, but relic suck at coding and tend to make lot of bugs.

It is the same like we should remove volks faust because it dissapear at vet4 instaed of fixing it.

Or remove british hmg because it had bugged vet1

We could continue, but I think it is always easier to remove unpleasant bugs instaed of balancing game around bugs and removing core features because of bugs

Jump back to quoted post28 Jun 2016, 16:59 PMBudwise

It was a bad mechanic from the start. They should have to have RE's to repair like every other faction. It's not a risk/reward, its just reward. Nobody abandons their Sherman on the front lines to repair it, they go back to a safe place. All this mechanic does is allow USF players to not have to preserve their RE squads. And no free vet 3 zooka squads popping out of things to counter their counters etc. It's just silly.

Either RE's can't repair and keep this mechanic or drop the crew mechanic. USF can't have the best of both worlds.

Jump back to quoted post28 Jun 2016, 16:55 PMJunaid

wait wait wait timeout. just what exactly makes it a nerf? you can do almost everything same as before (cap, self repair, crit repair) in a new way.

im only suggesting this because lelic keeps effing up and introducing new bugs related to vehicle crews every major patcg

Jump back to quoted post28 Jun 2016, 20:05 PMbicho1

self ripair is free ? crit repair will cost 10 ammo ?

Jump back to quoted post28 Jun 2016, 20:51 PMGhostTX

I'd say the manpower flexing is important, as allies need more of the glass tanks to overcome the Axis tanks. Being able to manage the crews and get that extra one or two tanks, is crucial, since allies can't 1:1 axis tanks, even with combined arms (riflemen/at gun) support.