Ostheer lategame needs a buff

Jump back to quoted post26 May 2016, 15:34 PMButcher

Something needs to be done about the Panther. It is not worth it in about any realistic scenario in the game. There are no swarms of Allied heavy tanks with high armor. Thus the penetration (while great on paper) is not needed. To compensate this high penetration the Panther has a slow reload. Thus you end up with the slow reload yet none of the practical benefits of the Panthers gun.

It simply fulfills an unneeded role. At least give it some better AI capabilities or a higher rate of fire so it is worth building.

Jump back to quoted post26 May 2016, 23:21 PMButcher

I´m not asking for a huge Panther buff. But what does not go into my head is that OKW gets an actually slightly better Panther than Ostheer with iirc a slightly better rate of fire and better performing MGs. Giving those stats to the Ostheer Panther would be sufficient. It arrives later after all.

Jump back to quoted post26 May 2016, 23:21 PMButcher

I´m not asking for a huge Panther buff. But what does not go into my head is that OKW gets an actually slightly better Panther than Ostheer with iirc a slightly better rate of fire and better performing MGs. Giving those stats to the Ostheer Panther would be sufficient. It arrives later after all.

Jump back to quoted post27 May 2016, 00:32 AMSmaug

a simple and easy fix can be to switch the vet2 and vet3 bonus on the panther. vet2 would give it higher rate of fire and vet3 could give it its massive armor.

Jump back to quoted post27 May 2016, 08:49 AMDomine

The OKW Panther also costs 200 fuel, while Ost costs 175. The Teching cost is an ailment that has haunted Ost since release, and should obviously be changed or treated like a bug or whatever.

Jump back to quoted post26 May 2016, 12:29 PMPencilBatRation

There was no point quoting me and just saying every unit I mentioned in my post is Okay/Finish/Okayish, even if you were %100 right.


Try to let others have their opinion and say.

Jump back to quoted post27 May 2016, 12:29 PMButcher

That would be a straight up nerf to the Panther. Getting vet 2 is its only saving grace. And getting that later can hardly be compensated.

Jump back to quoted post27 May 2016, 00:13 AMZangenbewegung

Ost is the best designed faction in the game.

Jump back to quoted post27 May 2016, 14:20 PMPencilBatRation

Did they ninja buff the katyusha?


Also it is not just brits who give OST a hard time. SU with their durable support teams, free shrecks and 45Muni PPsh can create frustrating moment for OST players.

Actually that is just a meme, or rather an excuse to keep the OP factions dominant and the underdog must remain underdog. "OST is fine don't touch it, I wanna keep smashing them lul"

Jump back to quoted post27 May 2016, 12:29 PMButcher

The higher cost was more to adjust OKW teching after the full income change. Before that it came at the same unit cost. So the adjusted price for the OKW vehicle shouldn´t be seen as the justification for it having better stats.

• Ostwind - Accuracy Buff
  
• Tiger - Frontal Armor Buff
  
• Squad Spacing - Increased for less RNG squad-wipes
  
• etc.