[Preview Mod] OKW = Ostheer on Steroids?

Jump back to quoted post17 May 2016, 10:03 AMAerohank

You can draw parallels like this between every faction since every faction has units that more or less fill the same roles.

Jump back to quoted post17 May 2016, 10:04 AMCartoonVillain

Well if AFTER the preview mod OKW is OH on steroids, then what was it before the nerfs?

Jump back to quoted post17 May 2016, 10:00 AMsiuking666

Is the new OKW simply Ostheer with steroids?
Other than having no snipers,

Sturmpio - Better MP44 pios with shrecks! (more expensive very cost ineffective AT)
Volks - 5 men Gren with Mp44 upgrade (1 is cc another long range)
MG - Stock MG34 with MG42 call in option (so the ost does have the advantage here)
Mortar - ISG, longer range, better cancer busting ( the only leigh do better is emplacement busting . ost mortar is superior for the rest)
PG - Obers/Fusiliers/Falls...take your pick (pg's are cheaper then obers or falls and dont cost ammo to be effective)

Raketen - Pak with Cloak that can retreat and garrison (FFS dude)

Light vehicles:
Luch, Puma, Flak HT vs 222, take your pick. ( i take the 222 . when it comes to anti lv the 222 is a awesome cost effective unit.)
Stuka - better, earlier than peewerfer (very needed considering the lack of decent non fuel arty)

Staying power:
Medic, Forward Retreat, Repair HQ, Flak HQ vs bunker, take your pick. ( no love the ost track?)

Tanks:
Pz IV - better armored Pz IV ( expensive )
Panther - better vet (expensive)
JP IV - completely outrange and outclass StuG ( Much more expensive stug is the better buy)
JT - better range elefant ( expensive also doesn't get stun locked the elephant doctrine that matters come with scopes)
KT - better tiger ( nope speed is better for heavies)

Jump back to quoted post17 May 2016, 10:31 AMKallipolan

This is a stupid way to make a comparison. If you'd actually played much of the Preview Mod, you'd know these factions are very different. To demonstrate just how stupid this comparison is, I will do the same thing but in reverse.

Pios - cheaper Sturms with flamethrower upgrade
Grens - Volks with longer range grenade and better long range firepower with MG upgrade
MG - doesn't need tech to unlock
Mortar - ISG but better because available earlier and can retreat
PG - double schreck OMG

Pak - Raketen with longer range, better penetration, stun ability

222 - available earlier than any OKW light vehicle, clearly way better

e.t.c....

You can make anything seem better than anything that way. It doesn't represent what actually happens in the game

Jump back to quoted post17 May 2016, 10:05 AMsiuking666

At least Brits got better sniper

Jump back to quoted post17 May 2016, 14:02 PMaaa

brit sniper is only better than japanese sniper.

Jump back to quoted post17 May 2016, 14:05 PMvietnamabc

I'm happy to trade SU sniper with Brit sniper, 2-man seems more like a liability than advantage.

Jump back to quoted post17 May 2016, 14:05 PMvietnamabc

I'm happy to trade SU sniper with Brit sniper, 2-man seems more like a liability than advantage.

Jump back to quoted post17 May 2016, 14:06 PMaaa

+1

the true thing is that this patch is the first one made by people who dont have knowledge beyond modding.

Jump back to quoted post17 May 2016, 10:39 AMUGBEAR

I wanna a Soviet version of Soviet OKW, non-doc Elite infantry/Heavy tank, 20USD deal! Unlike the gulag Soviet in the game, even the most produced SMG in human history is locked inside a commander

Jump back to quoted post17 May 2016, 10:39 AMUGBEAR

I wanna a Soviet version of Soviet OKW, non-doc Elite infantry/Heavy tank, 20USD deal! Unlike the gulag Soviet in the game, even the most produced SMG in human history is locked inside a commander

Jump back to quoted post17 May 2016, 20:57 PMFluffi

But they're probablly working on that other game with space nazis... what's it called again, oh yeah: "dawn of space marines-yet-again and no fouking imperial guard!!".

Jump back to quoted post17 May 2016, 20:57 PMFluffi

couldn't agree more.
Where's the second soviet army? ("guards army" or sth)
Where's all the PPsHs?

They could re-do so many iconic soviet things in creative ways, like... idk, a sniper team (=iconic for soviets) that works like a weapon team, so with facing and setup. Also, many vehilces are left, the russians were in the war a long time, there's abunch of stuff!!


But they're probablly working on that other game with space nazis... what's it called again, oh yeah: "dawn of space marines-yet-again and no fouking imperial guard!!".