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FalseAlarm
11 May 2016, 11:32 AM
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When did it happen:

* Damage profile reduced from 1 / 0.5 / 0.3 to 1 /0.4 / 0.15



That is a %100 nerf, we just assume the mid distance nerf was needed but the long distance damage reduction is over the top. It is almost useless again, compared to the kat, Callie and the 40-Fuel land matteres, so you need to get 2 to have the wiping potential of those mentioned counter parts.


Mind you Ostheer has no long range indirect fire and the GrW34 is ded thanks to Pack and Land mattress or the pit.

Change the far distance damage to 20 or 25 and mid distance to 4.25 or 4.5
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Lucas Troy
11 May 2016, 11:34 AM
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I think they want it to be used at mostly medium range, where the nerf was much smaller.


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FalseAlarm
11 May 2016, 11:36 AM
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It's the AOE damage dealt at the medium distance from the target, and not related to the unit's range scatter.
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RedT3rror
11 May 2016, 11:40 AM
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I bet you would complain about OP Katyushas if they were like current Panzerwerfers. Panzerwerfer is fine. It causes heavy bleed against infantry but doesn't alwys wipe them instantly anymore.

jump backJump back to quoted post11 May 2016, 11:32 AMFalseAlarm

Mind you Ostheer has no long range indirect fire and the GrW34 is ded thanks to Pack and Land mattress or the pit.


Guess how Brits and USF played against blobs before they got their DOCTRINAL rocket artillery.
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FalseAlarm
11 May 2016, 11:43 AM
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Well the fact that my opponent just hears the noise and just move a few tiny steps backs and save all models means it is far from fine.


You can't do the same shit while hearing a kat/LM/Calli firing.

jump backJump back to quoted post11 May 2016, 11:40 AMRedT3rror
Guess how Brits and USF played against blobs before
So it's revenge time I guess? The past is past, move on:wub:<444>3
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ofield
11 May 2016, 11:45 AM
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When was this change? Can't find it in the may patch notes.
jump backJump back to quoted post11 Mar 2015, 07:35 AMKatitof
I will simply lol at anyone expecting such a change to a 2 year old general use infantry.
Equally possible are pershing for USF, IS-3 for soviets or ober nerf for OKW.
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FalseAlarm
11 May 2016, 11:46 AM
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https://www.coh2.org/topic/4307/company-of-heroes-2-changelog/post/515893
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ofield
11 May 2016, 11:49 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 May 2016, 11:46 AMFalseAlarm
https://www.coh2.org/topic/4307/company-of-heroes-2-changelog/post/515893


Oh. Then i see no reason to complain, based on my experience, the panzerwerfer is fine at it is. Keep in mind that it also deals suppression.
jump backJump back to quoted post11 Mar 2015, 07:35 AMKatitof
I will simply lol at anyone expecting such a change to a 2 year old general use infantry.
Equally possible are pershing for USF, IS-3 for soviets or ober nerf for OKW.
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FalseAlarm
11 May 2016, 11:51 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 May 2016, 11:49 AMofield
Keep in mind that it also deals suppression.
2xMG42s or bunkers cover that mechanism.


It should wipe blobs or support walls just like Callie/LM/Kat do. And it is to fragile to get close in order to reduce scatter (which won't help that much against a wider area of interest anyway, the damage profile is broken again)
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Katitof
11 May 2016, 12:02 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 May 2016, 11:51 AMFalseAlarm
2xMG42s or bunkers cover that mechanism.


It should wipe blobs or support walls just like Callie/LM/Kat do. And it is to fragile to get close in order to reduce scatter (which won't help that much against a wider area of interest anyway, the damage profile is broken again)


I'm sure you had a lot of success building bunkers and using a pair of MG42 against weapon team heavy builds in late game, sitting on VPs.

Don't worry guys, this thread is just anther FALSE ALARM. :romeoPro:
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Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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FalseAlarm
11 May 2016, 12:06 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 May 2016, 12:02 PMKatitof


I'm sure you had a lot of success building bunkers and using a pair of MG42 against weapon team heavy builds in late game, sitting on VPs.
I don't remember the PW being able to pin Packs, Zis' or 6Ps either:guyokay:
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Katitof
11 May 2016, 12:10 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 May 2016, 12:06 PMFalseAlarm
I don't remember the PW being able to pin Packs, Zis' or 6Ps either:guyokay:


Well, it didn't need to, because it always wiped them and destroyed the weapon at the first strike with old damage profile :snfBarton:
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Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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FalseAlarm
11 May 2016, 12:11 PM
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Good thing is it can't do that anymore as it deals %20/%100 less damage. Neither stats are desirable, I propose something in between.
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Katitof
11 May 2016, 12:17 PM
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Half of something if 50%, not 100%.

And out of curiosity, what do you think of katiusha lethality or calliope?
would it be OK for you if pwerfer was as effective as one of these?
jump backJump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AM$nuffy
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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FalseAlarm
11 May 2016, 12:23 PM
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Yes, but bringing it to the same value requires a *1 multiplication.


Katy's damage is average, but at least it punishes stubborn noobs who refuse to move while the PW just pins them down lol, or get a few models at the center of it's radius. Both units need greater wiping potential.
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Katitof
11 May 2016, 12:24 PM
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Well guess what.

Pwerfer is more deadly then katy.

If katy according to you can punish stubborn noobs, then so can alpha strike PW with its BETTER AOE PROFILE.

End of thread.

Another hot air breather just lost his last argument.
jump backJump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AM$nuffy
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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FalseAlarm
11 May 2016, 12:28 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 May 2016, 12:24 PMKatitof
Well guess what.

Pwerfer is more deadly then katy.

If katy according to you can punish stubborn noobs, then so can alpha strike PW with its BETTER AOE PROFILE.

They can move a few steps back and preserve their unit, and then get back in the area. That is not the case with Kat/LM/Callie


jump backJump back to quoted post11 May 2016, 12:24 PMKatitof

End of thread.

Another hot air breather just lost his last argument.
That is what you desperately wish to achieve but failed. Insulting and acting like an uncivilized caveman does not defeat a well mannered, logical opponent.
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Highfiveeeee
11 May 2016, 12:28 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 May 2016, 12:17 PMKatitof


Half of something if 50%, not 100%.




Wanted to add the same :D

A 100% nerf would be no damage at all.
It is though God by command has withdrawn every other throne.
And God is saying 'No. These people will deal with me alone.'

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FalseAlarm
11 May 2016, 12:29 PM
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:lol: I know, I clarified my intention in my earlier post.
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Kronosaur0s
11 May 2016, 16:34 PM
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Useless again, better give the role of long range arty to my partner's stuka in 2:2s
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