people use strange logic on panzerschreck.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 14:12 PMbingo12345

Some of people said "raketen is bad so we need pazerschreck". i feel somewhat strange.
The basis of balance is 'Making too bad to average and Making too good to average'.
if you think raketen is bad, don't mention panzerschreck you need to mention raketen itself.

i don't think that raketen is too bad. it has fast ROF, steath ability, being able to go into building and retreat ability.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 14:44 PMSjakie Terreur

IMO its just a dumb move to remove the shrecks from Volks they where fine on volks. They just needed to do less damage to infantry and long range accuracy was a bit to good, other then that they fitted on Volks.

Wher and OKW starting to look more and more the same. Added MG doesnt help with this.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 14:12 PMbingo12345

Some of people said "raketen is bad so we need pazerschreck". i feel somewhat strange.
The basis of balance is 'Making too bad to average and Making too good to average'.
if you think raketen is bad, don't mention panzerschreck you need to mention raketen itself.

i don't think that raketen is too bad. it has fast ROF, steath ability, being able to go into building and retreat ability.

edit : don't go attacking playercard of others. Do say just right thing. it will make you shine.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 14:32 PMWaegukin

Rak + faust is a solid enough como. The issue is that its incredibly defensive

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 14:53 PMEsxile

But since it requires micro...

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 14:58 PMKatitof

Which isn't a problem at all.
For reference, please look at all that aggressive soviet AT options.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 15:21 PMElSlayer

Except one small detail - Cons have Oorah on top of vehicle snare, which is huge bonus if combined with slightly longer range of AT gun.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 15:27 PMKatitof

Then look at Ost when they don't use PGs, which is pretty common.
Ooorah won't let you catch up to lights anyway.

The range of that AT gun might be slightly lower, but remember it can camo and retreat. You can put it more aggressively forward and retreat if needed, which others can't.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 14:58 PMKatitof

Which isn't a problem at all.
For reference, please look at all that aggressive soviet AT options.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 14:32 PMWaegukin

Rak + faust is a solid enough como. The issue is that its incredibly defensive

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 14:58 PMKatitof

Which isn't a problem at all.
For reference, please look at all that aggressive soviet AT options.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 15:30 PMWaegukin

Yeah, but the ZiS provides green cover, 6 men, longer range then the Rak and cons have merge to keep it alive, plus their snare is actually capable of being used aggressively thanks to chaining with Oorah. The combo is far better for aggression then volks and rak.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 15:30 PMWaegukin

Yeah, but the ZiS provides green cover, 6 men, longer range then the Rak and cons have merge to keep it alive, plus their snare is actually capable of being used aggressively thanks to chaining with Oorah. The combo is far better for aggression then volks and rak.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 15:40 PMzerocoh

FFS the "green cover and six men" meme needs to stop, seriously.

the cover means jackshit when the zis is not set up 90% of the times, and the 6 men dont mean anything either when they all hug each other and get exploded by a single mortar/grenade/tank.

Raketen is a serious contender on the best AT in the game, every time I can I steal one as allies and reliably can penetrate the front of panthers and KTs, the camo is absurdly good and the retreat is great for preserving the experience on the crew.

the only reason raketen isn't the best AT in the game is because the pak 40 is way too strong and fast.