The SU needs a generalist medium vehicle

Which doctorinal unit should be moved to tier buildings?

Option	Distribution	Votes
KV1 (it is mediumish)	23%
T3485	46%
The T34 is fine as it is.	31%

Does the SU need a proper generalist medium vehicle?

Option	Distribution	Votes
Yes about time!	41%
You have the T34!	44%
No, the T70 should cut it.	15%

Total votes: 120

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ABSTAIN

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One of the few reasons I find this faction boring and lackluster is the lack of decent stock medium vehicles.

There is everything wrong with the current T34, Timing health cost tier etc.

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Just use the T-34/76. Relic will have to make it worth it eventually.

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Su76?

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10 Mar 2016, 15:25 PMDonnieChan

stop posting

25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AM$nuffy

Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.

Good Stuff here

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10 Mar 2016, 15:14 PMHans G. Schultz

Just use the T-34/76. Relic will have to make it worth it eventually.

If buffed then it will be closer to t3485. So swapping them altogether would be better.

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10 Mar 2016, 15:42 PMPencilBatRation

If buffed then it will be closer to t3485. So swapping them altogether would be better.

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There wouldn't be that many "shitposts" on your threads if you'd add a bit more effort into these. W/o statistics, a possible solution, and some well explained reasoning, It probably won't get much better than this.

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Thanks for the wisdom but all of my past balance threads included everything you are requesting fore.

This one is about a missing feature for a rather popular faction.

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T-34 for it's cost is fine but it still comes too late, this have been discussed 300 times already, buff the T-34/76 a little and make it cost more, or make it so that you can get it earlier so it wont get denied by the better counter pieces as soon as it hits the field

KV-1 would be interesting to see in a tier building tho, since it comes in a "meh" doctrine it could be moved to the base tech tree, for example replace the T-34/76 in the T4 and move the T34 to T3, locked behind side teching ofc

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Who needs medium when you got glorious SU-76 horde backed by Big Bro IS-2?

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If only Soviet Industry was still here, and the T-34/76 was back in T3.
6 T-34/76s running over everything. GG, early game win.

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10 Mar 2016, 15:42 PMPencilBatRation

If buffed then it will be closer to t3485. So swapping them altogether would be better.

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T34/76 is what you are asking. But you might have confused with getting a panther or comet

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10 Mar 2016, 16:11 PMTobis

3 word post

You laying on your mom again?

BE creative, don't use my memes.

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10 Mar 2016, 15:25 PMDonnieChan

stop posting

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Compare the T34 to the Ost P4 and suddenly the T34 doesnt look so bad.

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I think the M4C Sherman is the best soviet generalist tank and I find it very fun to use it, shame it's only in Lend Lease.

I think KV-1 or T-34-85 should be in Tier 4 though, and T-34-76 adjusted to fit into tier 3

Stock KV-1 would be a good meatshield for SU-85s

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T-34/85 should be non doc nuff said

8 Nov 2015, 18:05 PMd0ggY

First off all. Tripwire so gud, 10 ammo for a whole dead squad ? + sight.
Vehicle capture point can win games, blitzkrieg save a tank. Fair Deal i think

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10 Mar 2016, 16:57 PMBudwise

Compare the T34 to the Ost P4 and suddenly the T34 doesnt look so bad.

3x more DPS (far) on the machineguns, 1 sec less reload time for the main gun, Blitzkrieg with vet1 and armor increase with vet2. 10 penetration more, 0.50 lower scatter, 30 more armor points.

Still looks bad to me.

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