guys how about tier 3 34-76 with side tech and kv-1 as tier 4 (around 130fu) with buff pen (around 135)
and penal buff maybe accuracy ?
SU changes
8 Mar 2016, 17:52 PM
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8 Mar 2016, 17:54 PM
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Kv-1 can stay as a doctrinal unit. I agree with the T-34/76 side teching upgrade to make it come out in tier 3.5.
8 Mar 2016, 17:56 PM
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Kv-1 can stay as a doctrinal unit. I agree with the T-34/76 side teching upgrade to make it come out in tier 3.5.
dat mean 1 less unit for the tier 4 make it less apealing and so no one will built it
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8 Mar 2016, 17:57 PM
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KV-1 is just more armored T-34-76 with lesser speed. It's not that better, than T-34-76 itself.
For to make T4 reliable again, they just should throw out T-34-76, becuase it is too old for 1944-45 wars (just as KV-1, pretty old tank too) and put there T-34-85 for 380 MP 130 Fuel.
And instead of penals in T1 should be some AT infantry. Maybe penals with PTRS, maybe AT partisans, maybe Plaugemarines with rocket launchers... No matter how, but T1 should get AT infantry, just as entire USSR.
And of course - equilase Maxim MG to MG-42.
For to make T4 reliable again, they just should throw out T-34-76, becuase it is too old for 1944-45 wars (just as KV-1, pretty old tank too) and put there T-34-85 for 380 MP 130 Fuel.
And instead of penals in T1 should be some AT infantry. Maybe penals with PTRS, maybe AT partisans, maybe Plaugemarines with rocket launchers... No matter how, but T1 should get AT infantry, just as entire USSR.
And of course - equilase Maxim MG to MG-42.
8 Mar 2016, 17:59 PM
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KV-1 is just more armored T-34-76 with lesser speed. It's not that better, than T-34-76 itself.
For to make T4 reliable again, they just should throw out T-34-76, becuase it is too old for 1944-45 wars (just as KV-1, pretty old tank too) and put there T-34-85 for 380 MP 130 Fuel.
And instead of penals in T1 should be some AT infantry. Maybe penals with PTRS, maybe AT partisans, maybe Plaugemarines with rocket launchers... No matter how, but T1 should get AT infantry, just as entire USSR.
And of course - equilase Maxim MG to MG-42.
http://www.stat.coh2.hu/squad.php?filename=kv-1_commander_mp
http://www.stat.coh2.hu/squad.php?filename=t_34_85_squad_mp
with my changes it beacme a slower t 38-85 with more armor
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8 Mar 2016, 18:03 PM
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http://www.stat.coh2.hu/squad.php?filename=kv-1_commander_mp
http://www.stat.coh2.hu/squad.php?filename=t_34_85_squad_mp
with my changes it beacme a slower t 38-85 with more armor
KV-1 costs 420+145, thats too much for Main Battle Medium Tank. T-34-85 is perfect decision.
8 Mar 2016, 18:05 PM
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Nerf Maxim's ability to A-move to victory, buff Penals to give Soviets a non-doc elite infantry and compensate, minor armor buff to the M3 and bring Soviet T34/76 MP down to 200 while increasing fuel to 90. Penals work, late-game can actually spam, Soviets are unique and capable.
8 Mar 2016, 18:05 PM
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KV-1 costs 420+145, thats too much for Main Battle Medium Tank. T-34-85 is perfect decision.
as i said 130fu
rember kv-1 is only in 1 doctrine the t34-85 is in a lot more, less work for relic means it s less possible to screw up
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8 Mar 2016, 18:06 PM
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Nerf Maxim's ability to A-move to victory, buff Penals to give Soviets a non-doc elite infantry and compensate, minor armor buff to the M3 and bring Soviet T34/76 MP down to 200 while increasing fuel to 90. Penals work, late-game can actually spam, Soviets are unique and capable.
nerf to maxim is coming alredy relic said that in the last patch
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8 Mar 2016, 18:06 PM
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Kv1 should be more like the churchill or have better abilities like the german hull down.
8 Mar 2016, 18:06 PM
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Or we just wait out for the vet fix and then make balance assumptions because it will probably make some units viable/unviable anyway
8 Mar 2016, 18:07 PM
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nerf to maxim is coming alredy relic said that in the last patch
Perfect then, as long as they compensate correctly elsewhere.
8 Mar 2016, 18:07 PM
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Or we just wait out for the vet fix and then make balance assumptions because it will probably make some units viable/unviable anyway
Hey, good idea!
8 Mar 2016, 18:07 PM
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Personally I've always *wanted* to like the KV-1 but its terrible main gun always did it in for me. I like the idea of a more expensive one with a better gun (or maybe less scatter for better AI). SU really lacks a meatshield for SU-85s so I think it fills a nice hole in the Soviet arsenal. T34-76 side tech will probably help make them more relevant through better timing. Overall I like the idea.
I don't think Penals will need a buff after Vet fix. Does this mean CounterAttack Tactics gets KV-2? lol
I don't think Penals will need a buff after Vet fix. Does this mean CounterAttack Tactics gets KV-2? lol
8 Mar 2016, 18:08 PM
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Kv1 should be more like the churchill or have better abilities like the german hull down.
it has better gun with changes less hp and better armor
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8 Mar 2016, 18:12 PM
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guys stop flame and insult we are civil people not fanboys or arsonist
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8 Mar 2016, 18:15 PM
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guys stop flame and insult we are civil people not fanboys or arsonist
No, I will insult Relic, because their decision to nerf Maxim insults me more! What are they thinking?! Maxim doesn't deserve nerf. And buffing penals instead won't make it better. I need effective supression platform, not effecitve infantry.
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