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Vaz
4 Mar 2016, 15:43 PM
#1
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When the game calculates damage dealt, are non penetrating shots counted?
4 Mar 2016, 15:47 PM
#2
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Why non penetrating shots be counted?

Some weapons have deflection damage if that is what you ask.
Vaz
4 Mar 2016, 16:27 PM
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Why? Because it was dealt. Weather or not the game counts it, is all I'm asking. Unless someone like Cruzz has already answered this, the only way to know without looking in the code would be to manually count up all your damage in the game, taking note of all non-penetrating hits (pretty much impossible for anyone).
4 Mar 2016, 16:42 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post4 Mar 2016, 15:43 PMVaz
When the game calculates damage dealt, are non penetrating shots counted?


The vast majority of weapons do 0 damage on deflection (all small arms fire, most AT weapons, most explosives). Only a few of them will deal damage on deflecting hits, some examples include the 37mm Stuka AT strafe and the Piat launchers.
4 Mar 2016, 16:44 PM
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tigers also deal damage even when they miss their shots because of their massive AoE
4 Mar 2016, 16:49 PM
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tigers also deal damage even when they miss their shots because of their massive AoE


AoE damage also has a penetration value.
4 Mar 2016, 16:50 PM
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I know, but in the case of tigers it seems to penetrate almost every time
4 Mar 2016, 16:53 PM
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You don't need Cruzz for this.

-Brummbar
-Zooka
-shreck
-PIAT
-Stuka close air support
-on-map big arty
-AT nades and pfausts

These deal deflection damage.
I don't think I've missed anything.
4 Mar 2016, 17:13 PM
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You don't need Cruzz for this.

-Brummbar
-Zooka
-shreck
-PIAT
-Stuka close air support
-on-map big arty
-AT nades and pfausts

These deal deflection damage.
I don't think I've missed anything.


ISU HE shell/piercing shot
Satchel charge
Rocket arty

And i'm sure there are more.

I think you are wrong on the on-map arty.
4 Mar 2016, 17:34 PM
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ISU HE shell/piercing shot
Satchel charge
Rocket arty

And i'm sure there are more.

I think you are wrong on the on-map arty.


Yeah, all rocket arty does deflection damage as well.

However ISU deflection damage was removed together with adding the need to switch ammo.

And doesn't satchel charge have 1000 pen?
4 Mar 2016, 17:54 PM
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Satchel charge



Pennal stchel charge do not have deflection damage they have 1.000 penetration thou

You don't need Cruzz for this.
...
-on-map big arty
....
These deal deflection damage.
I don't think I've missed anything.


most artillery piece have 1.000 penetration and do not do deflection damage

thing original post is referring in damage report in the end of the game..
4 Mar 2016, 21:50 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post4 Mar 2016, 17:54 PMMyself
Pennal stchel charge do not have deflection damage they have 1.000 penetration thou

Yep, i think i opened the wrong file.

However ISU deflection damage was removed together with adding the need to switch ammo.

AP shells is 0. HE shells is .17 (40), Piercing .33 (80)


OP: open a custom game and just run a test if you want to see if it works or not.
4 Mar 2016, 23:10 PM
#13
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Wait, zooks and shreks don't deal deflection damage right?
4 Mar 2016, 23:35 PM
#14
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Guys, this is most probably not what he is asking for. What he is asking for is that whether or not the post game "damage dealt" stat counts damage penetrated or damage shot. And it is no trivial question as in fact for at least some of the weapons, for example base mgs, it counts damage against tanks without them getting any damage.
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