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Lefh 18 Ostheer Howie

29 Jan 2016, 16:44 PM
#1
avatar of Scotie

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Hello everybody,

I have one question regarding Ostheer howitzer. Are there some new game rules that are not allowing to build the howitzer at the base? Thank you!
29 Jan 2016, 16:46 PM
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Howitzers can't be built inside the base, that's correct.
29 Jan 2016, 16:51 PM
#3
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Ahh ok, but that is super odd. I mean now the tactics with static howitzers are dead.
29 Jan 2016, 16:55 PM
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Its lefh4Dead
29 Jan 2016, 16:57 PM
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Its lefh4Dead
Ayyyyyy
29 Jan 2016, 16:57 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Jan 2016, 16:51 PMScotie
Ahh ok, but that is super odd. I mean now the tactics with static howitzers are dead.


Yes, they changed that in a recent patch to "increase the counter-play against Howitzers".

Problem is mostly that Lefh is in Ostheer doctrines that are only so-so (same with Soviet ML-20). ML-20 also gets 2-click countered easily by Stuka Bomb drop so a lot of Soviet players don't even bother trying.
29 Jan 2016, 20:00 PM
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Its lefh4Dead

+1 you brilliant SoB :)
29 Jan 2016, 20:01 PM
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Still better than ML-20 and no risk of being reconed and dive bombed :P
29 Jan 2016, 20:18 PM
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Still better than ML-20 and no risk of being reconed and dive bombed :P
What about reconed and Il-2 precision striked?
29 Jan 2016, 20:32 PM
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What about reconed and Il-2 precision striked?


And how many useful doctrines with recon + IL-2 Soviets have? :P
29 Jan 2016, 20:39 PM
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Is it 90% effective ? Same Q with bombing strike?
29 Jan 2016, 22:07 PM
#12
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Just drop all howitzer cost to 500. Fixed.
30 Jan 2016, 01:32 AM
#13
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Just drop all howitzer cost to 500. Fixed.


That's 100 MP difference. You're kidding, right. :mellow:
30 Jan 2016, 02:40 AM
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That's 100 MP difference. You're kidding, right. :mellow:

Id rather not play company of artillery. Remember OP ML20, b4, laser isgs and pak howies. No, they perform fine.
30 Jan 2016, 03:00 AM
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OK, but what you suggest doesn't solve anything, and no, they don't perform fine. Thats why no one uses them, because there's no space in the Meta.
30 Jan 2016, 03:22 AM
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I think they need less spread, and either a faster rate of fire, or fire more shells per barrage. While you're fixing the wehrmacht's artillery gun, you might as well fix the soviet's as well.
30 Jan 2016, 03:51 AM
#17
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Howitzers cant be build in base becouse most off maps cant be used in base and these are only counter to howitzers now. Off maps cant be used in base becouse players didnt like them killing retreating troops. There is no solution around this sadly.
30 Jan 2016, 05:05 AM
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OK, but what you suggest doesn't solve anything, and no, they don't perform fine. Thats why no one uses them, because there's no space in the Meta.
I can live with that because I hate it when games devolve into no skill arty fests.
30 Jan 2016, 06:59 AM
#19
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I can live with that because I hate it when games devolve into no skill arty fests.


Ignoring a specific type of unit simply because you dislike them? Because that has really got us far in balancing the bloody game, huh? That's why we have so many obsolete and underused units and commanders, huh?
30 Jan 2016, 07:06 AM
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Ignoring a specific type of unit simply because you dislike them? Because that has really got us far in balancing the bloody game, huh? That's why we have so many obsolete and underused units and commanders, huh?
Difference between tanks and infantry and artillery is. Artillery surprise one shot wipes anywhere on the map. And when spammed kill anything and everything.

Infantry and tanks require positioning and combined arms. Artillery promotes turtling and one shot no skill bs.
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