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So, rather than I agree/I disagree/TL;DR etc, what about an actual discussion as to why you think that, or, has this forum turned into the steam forums... ?
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TLDR; I hate OKW ...
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1: Flames
A) Flame grenades are far too effective (...)
Considering the mechanics of the game, as far as I understand, flames are the tool of choice for MG dislodgment. Also, the developers want to avoid the situation that could lead to a invincible hut with a MG dominating a large area of map. This is particularly troublesome if you want to attack a different area of the map that is poorly guarded, and a parked MG can bring frustrating game issues. Hence, I think flames are OK as are.
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2: Stun Grenade
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Solution - Remove the damage inflicted by the grenade.
I don't know its cost right now. I see it as a buying time grenade or a go-to-your-base-now grenade. I could agree with this.
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3: OKW Flak HT
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A lot of people give some suggestions about the Flak HQ. I don't think that this is an issue.
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4: OKW Base defenses
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Solution - Remove the chance to pen vehicles, keep the AI but completely remove vehicle damage.
Back when OKW had reduced resources, I'd be against this, but now, I think that would be OK. BUT, this change possibly could change the chances of downing allies' airplanes. Could become a new balance issue.
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5: Axis off maps
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Not an issue on my POV.
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6: LeIG
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Solution - Reduce the accuracy of the LeIG dramatically at range or simply, bring the range in line with other mortars
I could think about giving it the same range as other mortars, but that's it. Also, the change should happen to Pack Howie as well.
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7: Bofors Garrison Ability
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Not an issue on my POV
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8: Rocket Artillery Units
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Solution - All Rocket Artillery should serve as a 'Get out of this area' weapon (...)
This is a definition issue. All rocket artillery is, actually, a Johnnie Walker Scotch propaganda - "Keep Walking". You should not be static by the time this type of weapon comes around. And yes, this is hard, and should be that way - the longer the game, the harder it gets.
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9: OKW Base Trucks
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Solution - Just as the trucks can be damaged during setup and that is then applied to the building, do the same for the truck and apply any damage caused by it to transfer to the building/setup stage.
Could agree with this
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10: AT Squad upgrades
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I use racketens all the time, they are very good. Also, mines. No circle strafe with mines.
Anyway, I can't agree with anything here. The only thing that I noticed recently is that the schreks kinda snipe a little too much infantry for my taste, but that's it.
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11: Scavange
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Not an issue in my POV.
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12: Kubel
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I'd agree that the Kubel got a little irritating. I can't understand the 15% cap bonus, which seems injury added to the insult.
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13: King Tiger
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Not an issue in my POV
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14: UKF Heavies
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Disagree
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15: Blobbing
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I don't think blobbing is an issue. It has strengths and limitations, and happens in pratically every computer game conceived by man. Also, people did blob a lot in real life, or else we wouldn't see so many monuments about lifes lost during WW1, just to pick one example. Problem is, learning to counter a blob is a little more tricky... But doable.
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Your own TL;DR stated "i hate OKW", and it shows... A LOT. So what kind of discussion do you expect to have after this rant?
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Jedi thanks for the response, I know what you are saying with the flame based weapons but you literally have no time to react before you lose the squad, especially to the Flame HT. Flame nades if you get out as its being thrown (arguments sake an MG) by the time its deconstructed and out of the building, one or two models are dead and the rest have very little health.
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The blobbing is again where I disagree, I'd rather keep real life out of it due to it becoming a straw man but to counter the example, how much easier would a blob of infantry to hit and how hard would it be to shoot if you were in the middle of the blob.
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Unless you mean that Shreck blobs are so fundamental to axis playstyle that it needs to remain the same, or that the LeIG guns range and accuracy is fine just the way it is, so on and so forth then I fail to see how you can't agree with my points.
Believe it or not I didn't just cherry pick features that would benefit my faction but opted for the ones that are completely broken within the games design and even relics own 'goal'. How do I know this? I'm a games designer
OKW having no need to build dedicated AT platforms or AA with the ability to destroy tanks and aircraft is complete and utterly broken. That, you don't need to play as Axis to see.
Edit: For example, what is wrong with my observation of stun grenades killing as well as stunning units? Even the description states it just stuns (iirc)...
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Playing against is never the same as playing the faction to properly understand it. I've been watching a lot of House of Cards recently and I'm slowly understanding the US political process, but it doesn't mean I necessarily know how Congress works from a first hand perspective.
It's a loose analogy I know, but it's similar to the idea that you never know until you've tried. It's really easy once you have established an argument to defend it to the last, but if your argument is met with a lot of resistance the adaptive thing to do is change it to meet the standards others set for you, rather than attack their evidence to suit your original theories.
*Really hoping that made sense*
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Christ man why ya got to hate on the Kubel. YOU WANT TO GIVE IT'S SUPPRESSION BACK?!?
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He is calling it the best indirect unit, intentionally ignoring the USF Pack HueHue which is SkillShotting grens on a regular basis.
1 Pew, 4 models gone.
#PackHueHue
#OPKW OP lelic nerf When
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Again, I really don't get the instant dismissal due to me not playing axis, the points I gave are observations that are clearly over/under performing or simply broken.
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