I like the time of brits sellout. Terminators behind sandbags everywhere. Time of ultimate balance.
I want those old brits back to see if they outbalance current OKW insanity.
Congrats to those who bought that worst faction in the history of rts.
t34 76 now useless
23 Dec 2015, 21:08 PM
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23 Dec 2015, 21:14 PM
#82
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yea, i have to agree with this.
t34/76's only strength is in numbers. but to keep the reasonable lead in the numbers game, as soon as you have 2 76s and enemy has 1 p4, you have to destroy it because 3 76s v. 2 p4s is not the same. even if you get to manage to keep 2:1 advantage, there will be more paks and tellers as the game progresses.
so massing t34/76s turns into "all in" game, where you have to constantly make plays to stay on top. and making plays with tanks is the most risky thing in the game.
Precisely. Once you commit to this strategy, you win with it or die with it. You need to stay in the lead, because while vetted T-34s can deal with Volks, Paks out of position and unvetted P4s/Stugs, if you need to attack a defensive Ost/OKW position (or worse, face vetted Panzers with vet 0 T-34s), you're basically dead.
And if the way to use a unit is by massing it once you've won both the early and mid game, well, I'm sorry to say so but that does not mean it is a very good unit at all. I can win by spamming Brumbars if I crush my opponent's early-mid game, doesn't make it less of a bad unit.
23 Dec 2015, 21:24 PM
#83
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The fundamental problem with the T34 being used as an All in tank is that the game is designed specifically to counter this behaviour.
-Snares are ever-present in most cases
-Most tanks can reverse as fast as you can move forward
-Your moving accuracy is not particularly good
-Your pen up close is not particularly good
If you could just yolorush stuff then it'd be no fun for anyone.
Suggestions:
-Remove ram. No one likes this.
-Increase the "knife fighting" range pen to 180, keep mid/far as they are.
-Buff the MG's/change the MGs to be the primary infantry killer. This allows for predictable, consistent dps without having to change the cannon.
-Replace the Vet1 cap territory with a flat stat buff to the MGs.
You now have a relatively quick,cheap, disposable medium tank that wants to be up front. The reward for closing the distance is much better pen since you are likely to be snared/kited/etc if you just roll up to them yolo style. Three of them bum-rushing an out of position Panther are now a real threat.
-Snares are ever-present in most cases
-Most tanks can reverse as fast as you can move forward
-Your moving accuracy is not particularly good
-Your pen up close is not particularly good
If you could just yolorush stuff then it'd be no fun for anyone.
Suggestions:
-Remove ram. No one likes this.
-Increase the "knife fighting" range pen to 180, keep mid/far as they are.
-Buff the MG's/change the MGs to be the primary infantry killer. This allows for predictable, consistent dps without having to change the cannon.
-Replace the Vet1 cap territory with a flat stat buff to the MGs.
You now have a relatively quick,cheap, disposable medium tank that wants to be up front. The reward for closing the distance is much better pen since you are likely to be snared/kited/etc if you just roll up to them yolo style. Three of them bum-rushing an out of position Panther are now a real threat.
23 Dec 2015, 21:58 PM
#84
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The whole idea some of you have about having to mass T34/76 is wrong. You do not need to mass T34/76. In fact, it often limits your ability to deal with enemy threats. The Soviet tech tree has been changed to allow for excellent, almost unparalleled vehicle combined arms and the T34/76 fits perfectly. Support the tank with a tank-destroyer (either SU76 or SU85) and the Katy and you will find they perform much better than when just getting 4 T34/76.
23 Dec 2015, 22:08 PM
#85
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The whole idea some of you have about having to mass T34/76 is wrong. You do not need to mass T34/76. In fact, it often limits your ability to deal with enemy threats. The Soviet tech tree has been changed to allow for excellent, almost unparalleled vehicle combined arms and the T34/76 fits perfectly. Support the tank with a tank-destroyer (either SU76 or SU85) and the Katy and you will find they perform much better than when just getting 4 T34/76.
Replace T-34 completely with other vehicles and you will find out that they perform even better
23 Dec 2015, 23:26 PM
#86
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The whole idea some of you have about having to mass T34/76 is wrong. You do not need to mass T34/76. In fact, it often limits your ability to deal with enemy threats. The Soviet tech tree has been changed to allow for excellent, almost unparalleled vehicle combined arms and the T34/76 fits perfectly. Support the tank with a tank-destroyer (either SU76 or SU85) and the Katy and you will find they perform much better than when just getting 4 T34/76.
Or I could get a T-70 which is faster, cheaper, requires one less tier, and has better DPS against infantry.
27 Dec 2015, 14:50 PM
#87
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Or I could get a T-70 which is faster, cheaper, requires one less tier, and has better DPS against infantry.
And die in one volley from those Volk blobs or whatever late game. While at least the T-34/76 can survive, be a threat to infantry and support other tanks/tank destroyers against Axis heavies.
27 Dec 2015, 15:13 PM
#88
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Support the tank with a tank-destroyer (either SU76 or SU85) and the Katy and you will find they perform much better than when just getting 4 T34/76.
T34/76 will no protect my SU and the Katy form shreks or PAKs or heavy nazi TD.
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27 Dec 2015, 15:42 PM
#89
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T34/76 will no protect my SU and the Katy form shreks or PAKs or heavy nazi TD.
How about an Axis armors rush with Panthers, Panzer IVs etc?
As Soviet, you have plenty of other tools to deal with Shreks and Paks.
27 Dec 2015, 16:09 PM
#90
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T34/76 will no protect my SU and the Katy form shreks or PAKs or heavy nazi TD.
The T34/76 is not there to protect your katy from schrecks or PAKs. The Katy is there to protect your T34/76 from schreks and PAKs.
And against a heavy tank destroyer the T34/76 can flank while the SU85 engages from the front.
27 Dec 2015, 16:29 PM
#91
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How about an Axis armors rush with Panthers, Panzer IVs etc?
What about them? Mines, AT-guns and AT-nade take care of panzers.
As Soviet, you have plenty of other tools to deal with Shreks and Paks.
What does not include use T-34-76.
The T34/76 is not there to protect your katy from schrecks or PAKs. The Katy is there to protect your T34/76 from schreks and PAKs.
Ok. Katy is there to protect my T34/76 from schreks and PAKs. That will do T-34-76?
And against a heavy tank destroyer the T34/76 can flank while the SU85 engages from the front.
Perhaps it would work against alone Ferdinand. Though for alone Ferdinand i make use 2 ZiS with great effect.
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27 Dec 2015, 16:40 PM
#92
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Ok. Katy is there to protect my T34/76 from schreks and PAKs. That will do T-34-76?
Perhaps it would work against alone Ferdinand. Though for alone Ferdinand i make use 2 ZiS with great effect.
The T34/76 keeps enemy tanks occupied, provides quick pressure on flanks, deals with harrassing units without dying quickly in ambushes like a T70. It's an all-round unit. It also has a turret which makes it much easier to use in urban environments than say a SU76.
http://www.coh2.org/replay/46786/demos-op-noobs-be-ragin-during-xmas
Here are towards the end you see excellent use of a T34/76 to flank a Jagdtiger while a tank-destroyer engages from the front.
27 Dec 2015, 16:44 PM
#93
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The T34/76 keeps enemy tanks occupied, provides quick pressure on flanks, deals with harrassing units without dying quickly in ambushes like a T70. It's an all-round unit. It also has a turret which makes it much easier to use in urban environments...
Is not it the role of all medium tanks in the game?
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27 Dec 2015, 19:13 PM
#94
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Is not it the role of all medium tanks in the game?
Yes. You just have to do a bit more flanking with the t3476. Which is fine because losing one hurts a lot less.
27 Dec 2015, 19:38 PM
#95
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Permanently BannedOnly issues with t34 are, its mp price, its veterancy gain, and its reload time. Decrease all of these, and its fine.
27 Dec 2015, 20:25 PM
#96
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In late game SU suffers from being unable to mass its tanks. T-34 needs to cost less manpower if its going to be garbage.
27 Dec 2015, 20:32 PM
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Every tank has utility. The T34's utility is suicide run Stuka/Panzerwerfer hunters.
It can also serve as Tiger flankers by going behind it and stopping it from going past you by pressing the stop commands button which forces the Tiger to go the other way.
Its also decent DPS against infantry. It doesn't serve an anti tank roll what so ever and only a support tank. Does it need some tweaking? Maybe. But I still make use out of it.
It can also serve as Tiger flankers by going behind it and stopping it from going past you by pressing the stop commands button which forces the Tiger to go the other way.
Its also decent DPS against infantry. It doesn't serve an anti tank roll what so ever and only a support tank. Does it need some tweaking? Maybe. But I still make use out of it.
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27 Dec 2015, 21:05 PM
#98
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The only utility the T34 has is the ability to run over infantry on retreat back in the enemy base. If it dies who cares but take a couple vetted infantry with it and worth it. Otherwise it is about as useful as merkins, they exist but who the hell buys one.
27 Dec 2015, 21:40 PM
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T34 is really good vs USF
27 Dec 2015, 21:58 PM
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