Panzer grenadiers are worthless without shreks upgrade

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Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2015, 10:58 AMCultist Isbjørn

Stick em in green cover, use them on the defence, and they'll beat countless enemy squads before they have to retreat themselves.

Jump back to quoted post15 Dec 2015, 12:45 PMButcher

Grens + LMG > Panzergrenadiers for cost. Grens do everything that PGs can do. They are more cost efficient and available earlier. Some people will say that PGs are good for defending an MG from cover. But that is way too niche for them to be worthwhile. Also Grens can do that just as well. They melt down infantry from long range.

Jump back to quoted post15 Dec 2015, 22:46 PMXutryn_X7

They get steam rolled by double bars rifleman and at medium range both pz grens and IS in green cover..the pz grens still lose models faster.I would rather use grens with lmg as AI than pz grens 95% of time

Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2015, 14:50 PMAustralian Magic

You may stop spreading bullshit becasue PzGrens own RF with 2x BARs on mid range, on melee range it's pure RNG.
Not to mention IS, which are hard melted by PzGrens when both behind green cover.

PS
I wonder why you don't fight for 280MP + 120AMMO Rifles squad which loses to 340MP at almost all ranges

Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2015, 15:12 PMnodickwilliams

Thats complete BS, Bar riflemen beat panzergrenadiers easy at mid range. The Bar stats are vastly superior to the STG44. Riflemen vet 3 are insanely more durable than a vet 3 pgren squad. The mk2 frag nade is nearly identical stat wise to the bundle grenade for 15 less munitions. Pgrens are a bunch of chumps.

Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2015, 15:12 PMnodickwilliams

The Bar stats are vastly superior to the STG44.

Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2015, 15:25 PMAustralian Magic

pictures

Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2015, 16:18 PMJohnnyB

Again images instead of videos.
Nice work Picasso, I realy apreciate your dramatic staging, but I would realy apreciate to see how it came to that, through a video.

Now I'm not saying it's not real, I just want to see with my own eyes the whole movie.

Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2015, 15:36 PMnewvan

Single Rifle BAR DPS after all modifiers - 15.228/7.400/3.808 (with reload 10.479/5.656/2.950)
Single PG MP44 DPS after all modifiers - 16.953/8.508/1.510 (with reload 13.219/6.795/1.206)

Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2015, 16:18 PMJohnnyB

Again images instead of videos.
Nice work Picasso, I realy apreciate your dramatic staging, but I would realy apreciate to see how it came to that, through a video.

Now I'm not saying it's not real, I just want to see with my own eyes the whole movie.

Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2015, 16:40 PMnodickwilliams

I stand corrected, those are the stats ive always wanted to see.

Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2015, 16:43 PMnewvan

How? Where is vast superiority? Is it +2 dmg at far range vast superiority? And don't forget that there is max 2 BARs in squad and 4 MP44.

Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2015, 19:14 PMstonebone000

Really though. This is a troll thread right? Because if you're losing with panzergrenadiers against rifles then not only do you need to learn to play, you are also autistic

Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2015, 16:18 PMJohnnyB

Again images instead of videos.
Nice work Picasso, I realy apreciate your dramatic staging, but I would realy apreciate to see how it came to that, through a video.

Now I'm not saying it's not real, I just want to see with my own eyes the whole movie.

Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2015, 19:24 PMTobis

It's 4v4 players not used to using cover before.

Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2015, 19:55 PMXutryn_X7

Good joke,my stats don't tell a thing...ok ok.I use cover every time and even on medium range with grenadiers..with pz grens i go from long range to medium or close range depends of the enemy squad.Seriously,pz grens as AI it's "I lose button"i go mg,gren,gren,gren,mortar/t1 or 1-2 mortar if maxim spam.That's the best build that last until i go for pak,t3 skip and panther/werfer or pz4,pz4,panther.Usually i wipe some infantry with fragmentation bomb when they are at retreat point(USF,UKF),then i move my forces to help the other mates and then it's gg.I play with my friend as 4vs4 because we like bigger battles and the pressure it's bigger

Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2015, 20:16 PMAustralian Magic

Your stats tell us that you are axis fanboy