2v2 and upward are totally broken

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 07:17 AMJohnnyB

Well, the way I see it, the blance changes evolution untill now it's actualy quite the same.
Patch 1 - Allied OP by a small margin - Axis players whining on forums. Players adapt and slowly the win rates are closing to each other. The whining still continues though and another balance patch occures.
Patch 2 - Axis OP by a small margin - Allied whiners cry on forums. They eventualy adapt, and start to win more than they lose, but the whining continues. Another balance patch comes.

And so on.....

I realy think that they better did small adjustments to OKW instead this total revamp. Like Mg34 becoming a stock unit, no changes to volks, kubel as it is today and replacing the MG34 in the 2 doctrines, OKW AA emplacements fixed, and other few small changes. And everything would have been fine.

Now, not that I don't like the new OKW face but if not OP, it's deffinetly effective, and because of Allied whiners, it will be again changed into a crap, and it will be even more shitty than before. Mark my words.

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 02:48 AMAchtAchter

Maybe you try to adapt and actually prepare for shock units before posting axis opieop threads? An overhaul of a faction means that some of your old strategies don't work any longer.

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 09:05 AMJohnnyB

OKW was born OP in some people's minds. Unless it's uterly shit, it's OP.

And let's forget about Ostheer. That faction is perfectly balanced, with its expensive teching, good for nothing grenadiers and Ostwinds hard countered by a few PTRSs.....

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 10:35 AMAustralian Magic

This all theory craft about T70, Stuart and AEC countering Luchs is pointless, because next to Luchs, you have at least 2-3 Volks with Schreck.

PS
Demo was called OP by so many people. So what Relic did? They made movable and invisnible demo so normal demo is not OP anymore

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 10:09 AMKatitof

Researching it got cost increase and it got tremendous cost increase, it was bit more expensive, bit more durable AT oriented Greyhound.

You could actually rely on spamming them to fight Ost P4s, OKW P4s and up still rolled over it easily.

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 10:38 AMKatitof

On top of that, sov T1 and now USF T1 got even more irreleavant then ever! Go for it vs OKW and enjoy a switft loss



I prefer to see it this way:

If another fanboy will whine about demo, without any hesitation we can slap goliath in his face, asking how he would nerf that first

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 11:31 AMatouba

The luchs come out at the same time as the Stuart and its penetration has been nerfed so what is the problem with it?Complain the shreck blob but don't complain about the luchs pls.Also don't complain about the P4.

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 11:40 AMNecrophagist

You can have so much AT by 6min that the luchs can be irrelevant.
And lets not talk about the mines.
Why all this fuss?

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 01:42 AMTobis

but I will wait until I play more.

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 11:41 AMAustralian Magic

Where were you with that sentence when people where complaining about 6min Quad?
I mean, by 6th min you should have enough AT to counter it

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 12:25 PMNecrophagist

Probably in game pumping out Quads

But seriously now, AT guns are available to everyone early enough. This shouldn't be an issue.
You could discuss not wanting to bother with vehicles so early. Relic supposedly wanted to prolong infantry play.

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 11:41 AMAustralian Magic

Not true.

Luchs needs 130 fuel to get on the field.
Stuart also needs 130 fuel, but can you live until that without ambulance or nades? I hardly belive, which leaves Stuart 40fuel behind Luchs.

Don't complain about pz4? Pz4 with amrmor of a Panther can hit the field 40F before Sherman. How is that OK?

Also what about Lieutenant? Should it becime dead-tier since you always have to go for Captain?

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 11:46 AMBurts

Haha, these ridiciluos axis fanboys.