inefficiency of panthers

Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 23:13 PMIron Emperor

I think itś fine, only because of the fact that any tank can have a really hard time against Panthers. I do think that the Panther for the ostheer is a bit too expensive. Perhaps bring the fuel back to 160.

I do keep in mind that the Comet (counter-part) is 185 fuel. The brits teching is just way cheaper than the ostheer teching. That's why I'd suggest to make it 160 fuel.

Jump back to quoted post24 Nov 2015, 00:11 AMLuGer33

I think the Panther is fine.

It's probably the best non-doctrinal tank in the game except maybe the British heavies. The Panther's frontal armor is insane and consistently bounces shots from tank destroyers like Jacksons and SU-85s. It has very high health and if it's not the fastest tank in the game, it's one of the fastest, meaning you can dive with it to finish off enemy tanks (and it will penetrate all Allied armor every time except maybe Pershing and Churchhill) or do drive-bys on things like Ambulances and mobile artillery.

With its armor, health, and speed, plus smoke, I've seen Panthers get out of situations where an Allied tank would have been knocked out 3 times. I think a lot of what you're paying for is the survivability, and therefore its cost is justified IMO. It can go toe to toe with any Allied tank, not to mention the three MGs which can do solid DPS to infantry.

I could see maybe a very slight pop decrease but the unit certainly doesn't need any performance buffs.

Jump back to quoted post24 Nov 2015, 16:11 PMFul4n0

Hi iron_emperor....I´ve read several times in this forum that prize of a unit is tied to its performance while tech costs of that unit are relate to the moment in which this unit is fielded....if this is right, why a panther should cost only 160 fuel while the OKW is more expensive???? just asking.....no trying to argue against your opinion.


and by the way, what you guys feel about stug costing 80 fuel??? is not too much cheaper for the performance that it has??? is it fine??? what do you think????? just asking again, I just want to know other´s opinion about it....

I haved no seen any threads about stug performance-price, and I wonder why??? I mean, I have no knolegde to participate in balance discussion but 80 fuel for such a great unit it feels so cheap for me,


because here there are even Rear Echelon OP threads so....just curiosity.....

Apologies for the off-topic.

Jump back to quoted post24 Nov 2015, 16:35 PMFul4n0

Thanks mate for such a fast and kindly reply.

Jump back to quoted post24 Nov 2015, 19:02 PMBeinhard

Panthers front armour should get nerfed hard.

Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 00:35 AMSwitzerland

A fast moving tank doesn't need high accuracy, the Jackson has to stop to get reliable accuracy to peg tanks.

Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 00:54 AMSwitzerland

Cool, but I still said that a tank doesn't NEED to be accurate on the move. And the accuracy when halted is still a far greater value, which will reliably peg tanks. As much as the comet is the new kid on the block, the Jackson is a papier-mâché tank, so it got that bonus. The panther gets the pintle MG good crush capability and of course blitz.