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OR, now listen carefully, GIVE IT GARDENING HEAVY TANK VET instead of this bullshit T34 vet.
And even 80 hp buff would go a long way for the units validity, atm it can take as many penning shots as T34/85 or ez8.
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Heavy tanks vet?
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Vet bonuses.
KV-1 vet bonuses are exactly the same as it was a medium tank.
Meanwhile panther gets extra armor and hp. Won't compare to churchill, because its bonuses are quite peculiar and suitable in the context of the unit.
Survivability oriented vet for KV based on durability instead of mobility would go a long way.
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Vet bonuses.
KV-1 vet bonuses are exactly the same as it was a medium tank.
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Incorrect.
Heavy tank vet (Tiger, King Tiger, KV2, IS2, Pershing, KV1, Pershing, Comet, Churchill)=
Vet 2: Increased turret rotation, increased range (+5), increased ROF.
None of the multirole heavy tanks get armor or HP at this level (or at any vet level).
Vet 3: Increased accuracy, increased mobility, increased ROF. Newer vehicles tend to get a grenade ability at Vet 2 or 3 as well.
Tanks that get more HP / Armor with vet:
P4, JP4, Panther, Brummbar, Sturmtiger, Stug. None of these are heavy tanks.
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I guess his point was that KV1 is damage sponge (so it should have vet increasing this role on battlefield), while every single tank you mentioned (maybe ecept Churchill) is very powerful tank, not just damage sponge, that's why they recevie various offensive vets instead of durability vets.
@Strummingbird you still should see my point.
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eg. 960HP 290 armor, slightly reduced speed, change CP and cost to match, limit to 1 if necessary, vet mode = toggle to increased ROF at cost of speed.
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What is actually a "damage sponge"?
A tank that can do nothing but take beating from enemy AT?
What prevents enemy from manually targeting your other vehicles?
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A tank that can take more then your average med tank and fight accordingly to its cost.
KV-1 isn't one for sure with current hp values and its shitty gun, I don't see the gun being improved, which leaves hp/armor values. Biggest problem of the tank is, it doesn't belong to the "war era" the multiplayer is on.
Thing is, for some reason relic is extremely stubborn on giving soviets POS outdated units and expecting them to perform well vs 1944-45 rooster of axis armies.
Irregulars were so bad they had to be removed from the game.
Partisans are barely useable.
M-42 anyone? Does someone remember how does it look?
T34/76 vs 34/85
KV-2 up until previw(likely after it as well, haven't checked it yet).
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A tank that can take more then your average med tank and fight accordingly to its cost.
KV-1 isn't one for sure with current hp values and its shitty gun, I don't see the gun being improved, which leaves hp/armor values. Biggest problem of the tank is, it doesn't belong to the "war era" the multiplayer is on.
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So what would we have?
- still easily dies under dedicated AT (unlike REAL heavies - Churchil, IS-2, Tiger, KT or Panther)
- have poor damage output - consistent but weak MG damage (no pintle MG), inconsistent gun (poor accuracy and pen)
- can't reliably pen frontally while can't flank because of speed
By the way, does anybody knows timing of OKW Panther next patch? What average CP you usually have by that time?
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