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Elite Troops Update

22 Nov 2015, 09:00 AM
#21
avatar of MoreLess3rd

Posts: 363

I like to see more of stormtroopers and I think that paid vet is unfair, so I like this change. But they could change the tiger ace to cost the same as a regular tiger and lower the command point requirement for that call in, and remove the ugly painting, but let it keep vet 3.


i would like to see StormTrooper with Stunnade while invi n STG Abilty the infantry :megusta:
22 Nov 2015, 09:01 AM
#22
avatar of robertmikael
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Posts: 311

I personally never had problem with troop training, since you do need to spend resources to use.

The only problem I ever had with the doctrine was really the Tiger Ace.

Have you been surpriced by a veteran MG-42 which is followed by a veteran mortar?

At least in 4vs4 this gives an unfair advantage.
22 Nov 2015, 09:09 AM
#23
avatar of Iron Emperor

Posts: 1653

although itś an unfair advantage, he did spend 160 mp and 50 fuel to get 2 vet 3 units on the field. Bit expensive.
22 Nov 2015, 09:16 AM
#24
avatar of robertmikael
Donator 11

Posts: 311

although itś an unfair advantage, he did spend 160 mp and 50 fuel to get 2 vet 3 units on the field. Bit expensive.

At least the player did/does more damage than the 160 mp to the other players in the early game with the mortar placed in a good position protected by the MG-42, and the veteran MG-42 gets an ability to shoot more efficiently at the early vehicles.
22 Nov 2015, 09:51 AM
#25
avatar of MoerserKarL
Donator 22

Posts: 1108

Allow them to equip G43 and use stuns and Storms will be good to go.


+1
22 Nov 2015, 10:09 AM
#26
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8

Did anyone really used troop training in any serious way outside of 4v4 or 3v3?

Because from my experience that 80/25 investment was huge for the first time and repeated it was runing your eco, to me it only made sense to use it on replaced pios in later game to get rep speed bonuses.
22 Nov 2015, 11:14 AM
#27
avatar of vietnamabc

Posts: 1063



i would like to see StormTrooper with Stunnade while invi n STG Abilty the infantry :megusta:

With that much muni + micro, its effectiveness should be equal to demo. Unless shooting from cloak, Storm <<< PzGren in every other way.
22 Nov 2015, 12:25 PM
#28
avatar of MoreLess3rd

Posts: 363


With that much muni + micro, its effectiveness should be equal to demo. Unless shooting from cloak, Storm <<< PzGren in every other way.


owh yeah forgot to take Muni into account,
hmm tnx, need to rethink about it
22 Nov 2015, 12:30 PM
#29
avatar of Butcher

Posts: 1217

What about adding a poll to this thread? Seems to me there are quite some people who would like to keep the Elite troops ability as it is.
22 Nov 2015, 12:43 PM
#30
avatar of Adrien_Fowl

Posts: 47

Adding a poll sounds like a great idea to clear things up.

I think Stormtroopers should be able to use the stun grenade ability. In my opinion, Tiger ace is fine but I wouldn't really mind swapping it with a "regular" Tiger.
22 Nov 2015, 12:45 PM
#31
avatar of skemshead

Posts: 611

jump backJump back to quoted post22 Nov 2015, 10:09 AMKatitof
Did anyone really used troop training in any serious way outside of 4v4 or 3v3?

Because from my experience that 80/25 investment was huge for the first time and repeated it was runing your eco, to me it only made sense to use it on replaced pios in later game to get rep speed bonuses.


+1

I can't remeber loosing a 1v1 to someone using troop training, not recently anyway.

Tiger ace was the doctrines strength and even then it was only Usf that struggled but that was because of design. Ie no standard mines and shitty at gun.

That being said a well timed rush of multiple m10s could destroy it quite effectively
22 Nov 2015, 13:13 PM
#32
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Nov 2015, 10:09 AMKatitof
Did anyone really used troop training in any serious way outside of 4v4 or 3v3?

Because from my experience that 80/25 investment was huge for the first time and repeated it was runing your eco, to me it only made sense to use it on replaced pios in later game to get rep speed bonuses.


Or fast vet to p4 that come really late when t 34/85 appear.

Or for stug to get instant TWP
Or for sniper to get incin ammo.
22 Nov 2015, 13:18 PM
#33
avatar of Swift

Posts: 2723 | Subs: 1

jump backJump back to quoted post22 Nov 2015, 12:30 PMButcher
What about adding a poll to this thread? Seems to me there are quite some people who would like to keep the Elite troops ability as it is.

I can add a poll if you like, just tell me what options you want listed.
22 Nov 2015, 14:22 PM
#34
avatar of elchino7
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Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2



alright tnx, ^_^ , they dint called it Ace for no reason ya?,

tnx a bunch man

owh btw any tips when to Release the Kraken?..cause i think timing is everything right?. cause u secrifice MP to reinforce ur Unit to help support the Ace


It also has more HP.
Normal Tiger: 1040HP
Tiger Ace: 1280HP

2 Dec 2015, 15:30 PM
#35
2 Dec 2015, 15:37 PM
#36
avatar of Cafo

Posts: 245

Good idea relic make a bad ability into a worthless one.
2 Dec 2015, 16:55 PM
#37
avatar of vietnamabc

Posts: 1063

Just fix the Tiger Ace plz, currently USF has no counter to Tiger Ace. Jackson is too fragile, rifleman gets rekted whenever they spot TA.
2 Dec 2015, 17:15 PM
#38
avatar of TaurusBully

Posts: 89

I used it on 1v1s, once when a guy was really maxim spamming I used on one of my two mortars.

Other than that, only for pios repair speed to keep the Tiger Ace rolling like its supposed to roll.

A tiger ace with one AT gun support, even withouth the TWP, allowed me to tackle a Vet 1 IS-2 plus 2 zis. I would kill the crew of one zis, detroy it, go back to repair with 3 vetted pios, than come back.
2 Dec 2015, 20:12 PM
#39
avatar of What Doth Life?!
Patrion 27

Posts: 1664

Why not make the Tiger Ace vet 0, and just let it have the increased vision range and accel/decel or something. Around the lvl of bonus the Command Panther gives to units.
2 Dec 2015, 20:21 PM
#40
avatar of Gluhoman

Posts: 380

Same with rifle company, rest in peppironi.
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