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JPIV Cautious movement - Phaseshifting

19 Nov 2015, 04:23 AM
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This is just a vid i made previously to show up the "goods" and how balanced the ability is.

I'm uploading atm another vid to show that it seems to be messing up with hitboxes.

Edit: vid in question



19 Nov 2015, 05:50 AM
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19 Nov 2015, 05:58 AM
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LOL
19 Nov 2015, 06:07 AM
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Looks like the JP4 'cloak' is actually a hyperdrive that drops the whole vehicle into an alternate dimension :D
19 Nov 2015, 06:09 AM
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"Just attack ground"
19 Nov 2015, 07:18 AM
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Ninja cloaking aside - that phase shift tech is rather a curious feature and certainly explains why I never had any luck trying to pot shot it.

Does the cloak state really mess with hit boxes?
19 Nov 2015, 07:24 AM
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Does the luchs also have phaseshift technology? Would be interesting to know if it does.
19 Nov 2015, 08:27 AM
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Lol Axis Wunderweapon comes from Klingon tech. Still no reply from Lelic?
19 Nov 2015, 09:22 AM
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Oh gosh.. I wish I could see the face of a member here who called me once L2P, noob, just attack ground :megusta:
19 Nov 2015, 09:38 AM
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Kappa, attack ground shit is irrelevant to this. No L2P issue here.
19 Nov 2015, 09:58 AM
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So It is not Cautious movement it is go to ASTRAL MODE
19 Nov 2015, 10:29 AM
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#justattackground

Right, Dullahan?
Only Relic postRelic 19 Nov 2015, 18:43 PM
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Adding an Issue for this, Thanks
19 Nov 2015, 19:15 PM
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Oh gosh.. I wish I could see the face of a member here who called me once L2P, noob, just attack ground :megusta:



#Smokeandflank


I think it was Arch Archer as always :foreveralone:
19 Nov 2015, 19:16 PM
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Also i think now we can fix this bug because okw is no longer UP #wehraboofanlogic
19 Nov 2015, 20:05 PM
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#Smokeandflank


I think it was Arch Archer as always :foreveralone:


I could not resist and I dug down for it :D

Australian magic you easily could've destroyed the jp4 with attack ground. Sometimes I think you are the only strategist on coh2.org that has l2p issues.

I generally wouldn't advise to nerf the weakest faction even further.


Jp4 is fine. When it camos while escaping just use attack ground. JP4 moves much slower in camo mode.


You can always use attack ground to attack a cloaked jp4. When cloaked it moves much slower so in most cases it's just l2p.2 at guns counter this unit well and nobody prevents you to do that.


Acht, where are you with your L2P, smoke n flank :megusta:

Oh that taste... Yummy... :megusta: :hansGASM:
19 Nov 2015, 20:21 PM
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Buy the phase detector upgrade you noobs, only 200 minerals and 100 gas :luvDerp:
20 Nov 2015, 00:47 AM
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I could not resist and I dug down for it :D







Acht, where are you with your L2P, smoke n flank :megusta:

Oh that taste... Yummy... :megusta: :hansGASM:


please don't go to that much effort to be a dick; it's bad for quality of life.
m00
20 Nov 2015, 04:29 AM
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I could not resist and I dug down for it :D







Acht, where are you with your L2P, smoke n flank :megusta:

Oh that taste... Yummy... :megusta: :hansGASM:
Worth it!
20 Nov 2015, 06:13 AM
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please don't go to that much effort to be a dick; it's bad for quality of life.
What's so wrong in calling out players who are proven to be wrong? But saying L2P when it's an honest to god bug/balance issue is not a dick move?

To say L2P is not a thing that should be said lightly, as it is demeaning and dismissive to other players, so it is only really merited if the player is not applying his skills properly or has no detailed knowledge of the game. The player who says L2P should have lots of experience applying the remedy he / she is suggesting, otherwise it is just harmful and misleading - why would they say such a thing if they had no practical experience?

If something is in fact not a skill related issue, then the player, by saying "L2P", is committing actual harm to the community by obscuring actual issues, shifting burden away from the actual cause of the issue to the skill of the player.

Every time someone said attack ground and L2P in a JPIV thread, they actively contributed to keeping this bug from being detected. Imagine if everyone said "There is no Vickers range bug, it gets better range in buildings, L2P".

You might say these people had no reason to suspect that JPIV cloak behaves any different from other cloaked units. But if so, this means they didn't actually encounter the scenario where the JPIV did the cloak / decloak dance and they didn't actually destroy a single JPIV through attack ground.

If they didn't encounter that scenario, what gives them the right to say L2P?

If you have the temerity to insult other players' skill, you better damn well know what you are talking about. And if you do and are still proven wrong, you deserve to eat crow.
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