Ostheer (Wehrmacht) Grenadiers

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2015, 06:59 AMiceman

Why not have the option for grenadiers to upgrade to 5 infantry like Brits? Currently a grenadier vs a rifleman is just no contest.

Thanks

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2015, 07:40 AMElSlayer

How about not to break balance between Grens and Cons (and other infantry), and just tune rifleman down?

Also - LMG42 on 5-man 240 MP squad

EDIT: on the other side we have double LMGs for USF

Jump back to quoted post30 Oct 2015, 10:34 AMZeroLithium

I think one of the biggest changes possible would be to give frontline infantry the ability to upgrade from 4 to 5 units and bring them in line with every other faction.

Since Brit release, brit fanboys have been complaining about how expensive it is to reinforce their squads - but Ostheer are STILL at 30mp per gren but have no opportunity to increase squad sizes. So now Infantry sections outperform grens on many levels and reinforce cheaper, maybe Osther should benefit from this as well?

I would propose a fuel gated squad size increase in the T2 building similar in cost to the Brit version, increasing infantry (but not weapon teams) to 5 men. This should allow Ostheer infantry to be more survivable as a squad and scale better into the late game.

I think a nice feature would be to include an unlockable rally point at the command bunker. As it stands, most other factions (except Soviets) have a forward retreat point. The resource cost should be somewhat costly, and would make protecting your investment in a command bunker a priority.

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2015, 07:25 AMKubelecer

Yes because 5 man grenadier squads for 240 mp will solve absolutely every problem

Grens are cheap and cost effective, and that's not good enough?

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2015, 09:24 AMElSlayer

I see many complaints about "terminator buff at vet 3", but does Rifles become a problem for Wehrmacht only once they reach vet 3?

IMO there is a problem on some other layer that is missing in this kind of discussions.
Maybe it is absence of strong light vehicles for Wehrmacht (remember Stug E meta?)

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2015, 09:27 AMFiresparks

usual experience as axis against USF:

0-6 min: fight back against ~4 rifleman and captain, sort of even

6-13 min: get your rear rekt by stuart as you tried to fight back against light tank with only infantry and atg.

13-19: rifleman reach terminator status and/or sherman arrive. rear completely devastated.

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2015, 07:46 AMFichtenMoped

Who the fuck said they should still cost 240 MP with 5 Men?

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2015, 09:26 AMQbix

I don't seem to get the issue here, Volks cost 235 MP, have an AI grenade and the ability to get a single special AT weapon for munitions. Plus, they have 5 veterancy levels. Why can't Grens get 5 models for 240 MP, have an AT ability and, you know, the ability to get a single special AI weapon for munitions?

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2015, 12:19 PMSupremeStefan

USF finally do something now, people got used to that USF has always been weak l2p thread