Centaur
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3 Nov 2015, 05:52 AM
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The centaur seems really bad to me now. I have had no success with this unit at all since the nerf. I think the nerf was justified, especially against units in buildings. However, with its reduced DPS and extremely slow speed it seems completely pointless to get this unit when for just 20 mp more and 10 fuel more you could get the extremely capable and versatile cromwell. What do you guys think?
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3 Nov 2015, 05:56 AM
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+1.
Eventhough I would just buff its acceleration and speed.
Eventhough I would just buff its acceleration and speed.
3 Nov 2015, 06:02 AM
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Agreed. It should basically be reverted against infantry in open but keep the reduction against AT crews and garrisons.
3 Nov 2015, 07:09 AM
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The same as ostwind.The ostwind don't have much more AI power than the Pz4.But the Centaur and the ostwind have good AA capability.
With the recent nerf ,I feel the Centaur is in the line with the Ostwind now.
With the recent nerf ,I feel the Centaur is in the line with the Ostwind now.
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3 Nov 2015, 07:15 AM
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Centaur should have a reuduction in cost, I think 80 fuel is right with their current level of performance.
3 Nov 2015, 07:18 AM
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Speed was slightly overnerfed, otherwise it is fine.
3 Nov 2015, 07:25 AM
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I agree the previous damage vs AT crews and buildings was over the top. But now this unit is pretty much useless. It is hardcountered by shreck blobs (the thing it's supposed to counter) and it's low speed makes it extremely weak at escaping AT guns and blobs. It'd be nice if it's damage was brought back up vs infantry like Basilone said, so it can fend off blobs, or at least have its speed increased so it can escape them.
3 Nov 2015, 07:44 AM
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Centaur should have a reuduction in cost, I think 80 fuel is right with their current level of performance.
Agreed.Both the Centaur and Ostwind should cost 80 fuel. Reduced cost should make them more attractive.
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3 Nov 2015, 07:52 AM
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it needs a speed increase so it can kite schreck blob.
3 Nov 2015, 08:36 AM
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3 Nov 2015, 08:43 AM
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Compare the Centaur with the Ostwind before nerf. Centaur>Ostwind by a large margin.
Compare the Centaur with the Ostwind now. Centaur is still better. No problem here. Next thread.
Compare the Centaur with the Ostwind now. Centaur is still better. No problem here. Next thread.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
3 Nov 2015, 09:19 AM
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Compare the Centaur with the Ostwind before nerf. Centaur>Ostwind by a large margin.
Compare the Centaur with the Ostwind now. Centaur is still better. No problem here. Next thread.
The ostwind has much better mobility though, which is pretty important.
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3 Nov 2015, 09:23 AM
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I think Both units(ostwind and Centaur) should get supression like the M5 halftrack to control blobs better, they wont be super damaging units and they shall have a better role and more diverse from the generalist tanks.
Also think about it, if 2x20mm fully automatic rounds are flying at you, i am sure you shall be supressed faster than a MG42 would.
Also think about it, if 2x20mm fully automatic rounds are flying at you, i am sure you shall be supressed faster than a MG42 would.
3 Nov 2015, 09:27 AM
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Suppression would be ok, as long as it doenst kill at guns in one burst.
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3 Nov 2015, 09:50 AM
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Supression is a verry bad idea. Such units would own infantry as hell. No.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
3 Nov 2015, 10:40 AM
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Compare the Centaur with the Ostwind before nerf. Centaur>Ostwind by a large margin.
Compare the Centaur with the Ostwind now. Centaur is still better. No problem here. Next thread.
The ostwind has much better mobility though, which is pretty important.
For the same cost if people could choose Ostwind or Centaur, Centaur is still much better choice.
I think that's bullpudding but 1400 HP Churchill even more bullpudding.
3 Nov 2015, 10:40 AM
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i still find the centaur very effective although i must admit i haven't used the cromwell at all so i'm not sure how they compare.
3 Nov 2015, 10:44 AM
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I still prefer the Centaur over Cromwell as my first tank. It still works in his role of discouraging inf blobs. Cromwell here does too little for me in fighting infantery to be a replacement.
Supression would be a great idea, like the doctrinal flak tank from PE in the initial COH.
Supression would be a great idea, like the doctrinal flak tank from PE in the initial COH.
3 Nov 2015, 10:46 AM
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the centaur is still miles better than the ostwind
3 Nov 2015, 10:53 AM
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I have been using it like I used it before the patch. It just needs longer to wipe squad, but it still forces retreats, but at least doesn't wipe on retreat anymore. It's also very good in counter harassing so I personally don't see the issue, especially when using an Ostwind even after the Centaur nerf, the Centaur still does a better job in its dedicated role.
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