Theyre Similar to Thompson Paratroopers with their Thompsons of course but they come out earlier than them, paras do have more utility though with their 2 different weapon upgrades, being able to reinforce at beacons and extra abilities
As a person who used Rangers alot so far in 2v2s I must say they are good but theyre certainly not that overpowered, you get 2 and you start to slowly bleed manpower and while they can 1v1 most squads you cant just charge up I just find that theyre an AWESOME! flanking unit and I only need 1 for that XD
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30 Oct 2015, 09:16 AM
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30 Oct 2015, 11:24 AM
#24
Posts: 1593 | Subs: 1
Newsflash:
Paras are better and cheaper, have more dps and better survivability vs non small arms weapons while being comparably durable vs small arms.
Maybe buff ranger dps or make them more tanky
30 Oct 2015, 11:29 AM
#25
Posts: 372
Theyre Similar to Thompson Paratroopers with their Thompsons of course but they come out earlier than them, paras do have more utility though with their 2 different weapon upgrades, being able to reinforce at beacons and extra abilities
As a person who used Rangers alot so far in 2v2s I must say they are good but theyre certainly not that overpowered, you get 2 and you start to slowly bleed manpower and while they can 1v1 most squads you cant just charge up I just find that theyre an AWESOME! flanking unit and I only need 1 for that XD
Come out earlier? Same CP cost at 3.
30 Oct 2015, 12:23 PM
#26
Posts: 254
Lol, I had 2 squads stand in volks flamenades, and still wipe the 4 volks squads.
With 2 sturmpios flaming them too.
Rangers have fireproof skin.
Thanks in advance for linking the replay, I am sure your post is 100% true.
30 Oct 2015, 12:38 PM
#27
Posts: 721
the problem is i think okw anti infy units dont perform well aka obers and falls they need massive buffs after recent changes more so and i think panzergrenadiers need to be the whermact close range elite unit or maybe buff stormtroppers and ass grens
30 Oct 2015, 13:17 PM
#28
Posts: 403
Paras have no recieved accuracy reduction until vet 3. They lose models a lot more quickly than rangers
My place in the ladder is irrelevant as long as I am matched with opponents of the same rank and play all factions (balance at place 1000+ is no different from balance in top 100 if we consider what I said before the brakets) so I don't care about your assertion which is also irrelevant.
30 Oct 2015, 13:21 PM
#29
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Paras have no recieved accuracy reduction until vet 3. They lose models a lot more quickly than rangers
Paras have 480 hp vs small arms.
Rangers have 500 effective hp vs small arms.
Paras have more dps because of additional carbine as well as the ability.
Paras also cost less, are easier to sustain and can be deployed as well as reinforced on the field next to pf beacons.
Only reason to go for rangers over paras is because one is a fanboy of pershing.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
30 Oct 2015, 13:42 PM
#30
Posts: 39
GET SOME RANGERS LEAD THE WAY
30 Oct 2015, 15:21 PM
#31
Posts: 3293
some posts were invised 
Failure is always an option. 
It's a happy massacre?! (yes, yes it is!)
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30 Oct 2015, 16:04 PM
#32
Posts: 2561
How did you calculate that?
Paras have 480 hp vs small arms.
Rangers have 500 effective hp vs small arms.
Paras have more dps because of additional carbine as well as the ability.
Rangers have 20% reduced accuracy and paras have 1 more man aka 20% more health. They should have the same effective health vs small arms with paras being more durable against explosions.
30 Oct 2015, 16:09 PM
#33
Posts: 1116 | Subs: 1
Permanently BannedIs 10 less initial manpower and 4 less reinforcement cost really so huge on a smaller squad with more durable models? You potentially bleed less because you'll be losing less models. Plus you have an extra weapon slot. Both are slight variants in terms of ability. But paratroopers have slight advantages in one area, while rangers have slight advantages in another.
Both practically the same except for a few minor differences, but you cant call in paratroopers with heavy cavalry.
Both practically the same except for a few minor differences, but you cant call in paratroopers with heavy cavalry.
1337 h4X0R, dank memes
axis
30 Oct 2015, 16:26 PM
#34
Posts: 1225
Strong squad but not batshit broken for cost, except that they should have max one weapon slot. Fairly decent design by relic for once.
Actually I am gonna partially revise that, Rangers are too durable and too cheap.
30 Oct 2015, 16:32 PM
#35
Posts: 1063
For Para, don't forget the beacon from Pathfinders, on large map with beacon + self heal they seldom retreat, not to mention Para with LMG is still the best long range AI inf for US with rifle LMG nerfed.
30 Oct 2015, 16:51 PM
#36
Posts: 98
Rangers vet 0 are just 'ok' even with thompsons. However once they get to vet 2-3 they become pretty good. Airborne is probably better for 1v1. But I prefer this in team modes.
30 Oct 2015, 17:08 PM
#37
Posts: 1273
What's the VET bonus on these?
30 Oct 2015, 17:19 PM
#38
Posts: 378
How did you calculate that?
Rangers have 20% reduced accuracy and paras have 1 more man aka 20% more health. They should have the same effective health vs small arms with paras being more durable against explosions.
Paratrooper 6 x 80hp = 480hp
Ranger 5 x 80hp x 1/0.8 = 500hp
30 Oct 2015, 17:33 PM
#39
Posts: 403
My place in the ladder is irrelevant as long as I am matched with opponents of the same rank and play all factions (balance at place 1000+ is no different from balance in top 100 if we consider what I said before the brakets) so I don't care about your assertion which is also irrelevant.
30 Oct 2015, 18:07 PM
#40
Posts: 1063
Rangers got self heal at vet2, para got that at vet3.
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