Login

russian armor
COH2.ORG » Forums » Parlor Room » COH2 Central » COH2 Gameplay » Relic Stream - October 28

Relic Stream - October 28

PAGES (6)down
Relic
New topic New topic     Upload replay New Reply
Diomedes
28 Oct 2015, 17:30 PM
#1
avatar of Diomedes

Posts: 103




Thorough Salvage: Salvaging will take more time, but also yields munitions resource.


Flammerwerfer 35: Sturmpioneers are now able to equip themselves with a Flammerwerfer 25 Flamethrower.
( 60 ammo )


Recoup Losses: Infantry that is lost will grant a portion of manpower back to the player.
( 80 ammo, 30 seconds duration )


Flammpanzer 38 'Hetzer': The Flammpanzer 28 is a Jagdpanzer 28 modified with a Keobe flamethrower in place of the main gun.
( ( 400 mp 135 fuel ) 280mp , 100fuel , 16 population )


Rocket Barrage: Call in an Off-map Barrage of devastating 280mm Rockets to a targeted area.
( 200 ammo )

__________________________________________________ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็(ಠ益ಠส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็
Bruva I am hit! Bruva I am pinned heer! IT IS THE BEEEEIIIIIINNNBBLLLLAAADE!!! Company of Heroes 2 Faceplates
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
SpaceHamster
28 Oct 2015, 17:35 PM
#2
avatar of SpaceHamster
Patrion 14

Posts: 474

  • Thorough salvage same as the one in scavenge doctrine.

  • Sturmpioneer flamer same as rifle(or any other) flamer. Costs 60 munitions and cannot be put away like a minesweeper.

  • Recoup loses costs 80 munitions and lasts 30 seconds. Gives 20 mp back for every 1 volks model that dies.

  • Flame hetzer costs 400 mp 135 fuel. Looks like its flame damage will be normalized like all other flame tanks(at 10). Also seems like it has the same amount of health as jagdpanzer(took 4 shots from a pershing to be killed).

  • Stuka barrage can kill artillery emplacements like ml20 on the field if it hits directly on it and costs 200 munitions to use.

Overall, pretty meh commander. Even the vet 5 flame hetzer didn't look too powerful while it was taking 2-3 seconds to kill off one model from a con squad.
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
Diomedes
28 Oct 2015, 17:40 PM
#3
avatar of Diomedes

Posts: 103

stream was good imo, with lots of info also good questions.

__________________________________________________ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็(ಠ益ಠส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็
Bruva I am hit! Bruva I am pinned heer! IT IS THE BEEEEIIIIIINNNBBLLLLAAADE!!! Company of Heroes 2 Faceplates
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
broodwarjc
28 Oct 2015, 17:41 PM
#4
avatar of broodwarjc

Posts: 824

Previewing Vet 5 Hetzer and the thing is god awful, fast, but low damage, low armor, and same HP as Jagdpanzer (it died in 3-4 hits from a Vet 0 Pershing); for apparently 135 fuel. Vet 5 Hetzer sat in front of blobbed Vet 0 Cons and took about 1 minute to kill 3 squads.... The Ostwind looks way better and cheaper and can shoot down planes.

The rocket strike was a normal Stuka barrage, but in a circle, but I believe someone said it costed 200 munis; but it came about the same time a normal Rocket strike would (still kind of expensive for a single barrage).

Flamers on Strums at mid range looked like it was about the same DPS, or slightly less than the Stg44 it replaces, in an open field. So it is only worth it on city maps with lots of buildings to garrison.

The MP ability is I believe 80 munis, but only lasts 30 seconds; although it did give back an impressive amount of MP.

So overall I am not paying money for this commander unless the stats and costs are tweaked before release. And if I do get one in a drop I still don't think this comes close to being playable. Enjoy your Pershing USF, OKW has to choke on this garbage.
Youtube Streaming: https://www.youtube.com/@broodwarjc1517/streams
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
wakeupta
28 Oct 2015, 17:50 PM
#5
avatar of wakeupta

Posts: 27

jump backJump back to quoted post28 Oct 2015, 17:35 PMSpaceHamster

jump backJump back to quoted post28 Oct 2015, 17:41 PMbroodwarjc


Imo the Hetzer is good (mobility looked good)

but comes bit late (8 command points)

and

cost a bit much ( OKW PZ4 cost 135 fuel also, imo it should be less (flakpanzer,centaur))

stream was good, little short but ok.

it sounded the warspoils fix now actually being worked on, i pray for the EMPEROR it gets released before i get bored of coh2
"You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes."
2500+ hours played, pvp only.
War spoils system intentionally sucks since: More than 1 years
And you support this by Buying more Relic/SEGA games :foreveralone:
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
Baionetto
28 Oct 2015, 17:56 PM
#6
avatar of Baionetto

Posts: 90

useless commander imho
jump backJump back to quoted post5 Oct 2015, 21:41 PMJadame!
Cruzz probably knows game better then Relic does.

Lelic, plz...
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
daspoulos
28 Oct 2015, 17:57 PM
#7
avatar of daspoulos

Posts: 1116 | Subs: 1

Permanently Banned
Flame hetzer looks like complete trash. It had to kill 45 conscripts to even reach vet 1. Another shit axis unit added to the pile and it hasnt even been released. Plus it doesn't even have the remote controlled mg, but a completely out of place top gunner. Sigh*. Well what do you expect #lelic'd
Playercard of daspoulos

2v2: Pstreak: - 1
2v2: Pstreak: - 1
2v2: Pstreak: + 5
2v2: Pstreak: + 2




1337 h4X0R, dank memes axisaxis
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
pigsoup
28 Oct 2015, 17:57 PM
#8
avatar of pigsoup
Patrion 14

Posts: 4301 | Subs: 2

what were some of the good answered questions?
Playercard of Bo-Bobby Lion

3v3: Pstreak: - 3
3v3: Pstreak: + 8
3v3: Pstreak: - 3
3v3: Pstreak: - 2


















Playercard of Bo-Bobby Lion

3v3: Pstreak: - 3
2v2: Pstreak: - 2with Ohme
2v2: Pstreak: + 1with Ohme
2v2: Pstreak: + 3with Medman






Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
CookiezNcreem
28 Oct 2015, 17:59 PM
#9
avatar of CookiezNcreem
Senior Strategist Badge
Donator 11

Posts: 3052 | Subs: 15

lol hetzter shouldn't cost 135 fuel.

Should be At 100 like ostwind
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
SpaceHamster
28 Oct 2015, 18:04 PM
#10
avatar of SpaceHamster
Patrion 14

Posts: 474

I just noticed the hetzer has a population of 16. While the OKW luchs is at 8; the ostwind at 10; the panzer IV at 12; and the panther at 16.

Like seriously, did anyone even check how weak this unit is before thinking "this is totally worth 16% of someones army."
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
Pedro_Jedi
28 Oct 2015, 18:12 PM
#11
avatar of Pedro_Jedi

Posts: 543

This is really sad. I didn't see the stream, but, by your word-of-mouth, this is the first time that I'm longing for the patch after this patch.
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
Speculator
28 Oct 2015, 18:17 PM
#12
avatar of Speculator

Posts: 157

jump backJump back to quoted post28 Oct 2015, 17:50 PMwakeupta

but comes bit late (8 command points)

and

cost a bit much ( OKW PZ4 cost 135 fuel also, imo it should be less (flakpanzer,centaur))


Unit probably needs adjustments, but the CP requirement is in line with the KV-8. Cost could use a reduction, somewhere around 110-125fu.


However, it's a questionable design choice to have Rocket Barrage being able to bombard base sectors. That's a HUGE problem with many abilities and I believe most arty/barrage abilities shouldn't be able to attack base sectors.
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
niutudis
28 Oct 2015, 18:17 PM
#13
avatar of niutudis

Posts: 276

jump backJump back to quoted post28 Oct 2015, 17:57 PMpigsoup
what were some of the good answered questions?

Some dudes in the chat asked about optimisation and relic said "nope" .... in a long sentence :banana:
:wave: Hug me, I am german :hyper:
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
AngryKitten465
28 Oct 2015, 18:17 PM
#14
avatar of AngryKitten465

Posts: 473

Permanently Banned
Nobody with a working brain will buy this excuse of a commander.
Whenever I face USF as OKW, it feels like I have been strapped down into a mental hospital wheelchair, with legs that can't reach the floor to move myself forward and a nurse is trying to move the wheelchair backwards whilst I have to race a formula one car for a best of three laps.

It feels handicapped from the start


No thumbs, cute and a lot of furry fluffiness, I am the ultimate kitten and by the heavens, am I angry!
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
Hon3ynuts
28 Oct 2015, 18:19 PM
#15
avatar of Hon3ynuts

Posts: 818

jump backJump back to quoted post28 Oct 2015, 17:57 PMdaspoulos
Flame hetzer looks like complete trash. It had to kill 45 conscripts to even reach vet 1. Another shit axis unit added to the pile and it hasnt even been released. Plus it doesn't even have the remote controlled mg, but a completely out of place top gunner. Sigh*. Well what do you expect #lelic'd


I agree it seems to perform like a p4 vs infantry which also costs 135 fuel...but the hetzer can't fight tanks.

They don't seem to get that a unit that can only fight infantry should be "Overperforming" vs infantry

On that note flame tanks should cost less of they would instawipe squads at their price levels
Playercard of Hon3y

1v1: P2v2: P3v3: None4v4: P
1v1: P2v2: P3v3: None4v4: P
1v1: P2v2: P3v3: P4v4: P
1v1: P2v2: P3v3: P4v4: P


Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
niutudis
28 Oct 2015, 18:21 PM
#16
avatar of niutudis

Posts: 276

btw is it just me or is the flamer on sturms just a waste of munitions?
:wave: Hug me, I am german :hyper:
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
GLBZ
28 Oct 2015, 18:24 PM
#17
avatar of GLBZ

Posts: 54

hetzer - brummbar №2
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
AchtAchter
28 Oct 2015, 18:26 PM
#18
avatar of AchtAchter

Posts: 1604 | Subs: 3

Why would I get a Flammenhetzer over a P4?
If you need to know stats of certain unit: http://stat.coh2.hu

Which faction is OP and which is UP? Check it out here

Tips for beginners and wannabe pro's
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
GiaA
28 Oct 2015, 18:30 PM
#19
avatar of GiaA

Posts: 713 | Subs: 2

This thread is a good example of how hypocritical this community is.

Commander doesn't seem op at first glance: "Never gonna buy that shit"
Commander looks OP: "Relic is destroying this game with their P2W dlc policy but I'm gonna buy and abuse the commander anyways."

lololol
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
daspoulos
28 Oct 2015, 18:32 PM
#20
avatar of daspoulos

Posts: 1116 | Subs: 1

Permanently Banned
Its not about it not being OP. Far from it in fact, the new unit the flame hetzer is quite clearly garbage. Useless vet, and is overpriced. Sturmpioneer flamethrower is nothing special, only good ability is recoup losses which is just stupid for other reasons. Stuka strike is decent but expensive. Commander rating: 4/10
Playercard of daspoulos

2v2: Pstreak: - 1
2v2: Pstreak: - 1
2v2: Pstreak: + 5
2v2: Pstreak: + 2




1337 h4X0R, dank memes axisaxis
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
PAGES (6)down
New topic New topic     Upload replay New Reply
2 users are browsing this thread: 2 guests
COH2.ORG » Forums » Parlor Room » COH2 Central » COH2 Gameplay » Relic Stream - October 28

Livestreams

HulkSMASH
 United States 1
HelpingHans
 United Kingdom 68
RtN. Havoc
 unknown 21
VindicareX
 unknown 1

Ladders Top 10

UKF
USF
OKW
SOV
OST
1v1
2v2
3v3
4v4
  • #
    Steam Alias
    W
    L
    %
    Streak
Data provided by Relic Relic Entertainment

Replay highlight

Top Tier Teams
VS
  • U.S. Forces flag cblanco ★
  • The British Forces flag 보드카 중대
  • Oberkommando West flag VonManteuffel
  • Ostheer flag Heartless Jäger
Einhoven Country
Einhoven Country Honor
Honor it
9
 Download
Download
1006
uploaded by XXxxHeartlessxxXX

Board Info

767 users are online: 767 guests
0 post in the last 24h
7 posts in the last week
25 posts in the last month
Registered members: 48769
Welcome our newest member, CozyThemes
Most online: 2043 users on 29 Oct 2023, 01:04 AM