Remove Allied Grenade tech costs

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2015, 05:45 AMmomo4sho

Or how about we add tech costs for at least grenadier lmgs, volks shrecks ( MAYBE), instead? So there is at least a thought process behind them like teching molotovs, grenades, BARs rather than the brainless upgrades they actually are?

Why do Axis get essentially " free " upgrades like these when the Allied players are paying for them in extra MP/ Fuel.

It really makes no sense to me. Makes doctrines like CAS stronger than they need to be when there is no extra cost tied to upgrading LMG's

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2015, 03:23 AMaaa

axis mg leaving the house too fast for grenades to do any dmg. Plus animation is so faking noticeable.
80% of the time they just have to reposition without single model drop. Combined with its huge arc not allowing closing a distance its rediclous.
Grenades of allied basic infantry really need buff. Or axis ability to dodge need a nerf

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2015, 05:45 AMmomo4sho

Or how about we add tech costs for at least grenadier lmgs, volks shrecks ( MAYBE), instead? So there is at least a thought process behind them like teching molotovs, grenades, BARs rather than the brainless upgrades they actually are?

Why do Axis get essentially " free " upgrades like these when the Allied players are paying for them in extra MP/ Fuel.

It really makes no sense to me. Makes doctrines like CAS stronger than they need to be when there is no extra cost tied to upgrading LMG's

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2015, 00:35 AMProBro

There really isn't a good reason to lock grenades behind tech, especially since Allied grenades aren't even significantly better.

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2015, 06:13 AMJLI

dodging isnt an ability, its micro

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2015, 05:45 AMmomo4sho

Or how about we add tech costs for at least grenadier lmgs, volks shrecks ( MAYBE), instead? So there is at least a thought process behind them like teching molotovs, grenades, BARs rather than the brainless upgrades they actually are?

Why do Axis get essentially " free " upgrades like these when the Allied players are paying for them in extra MP/ Fuel.

It really makes no sense to me. Makes doctrines like CAS stronger than they need to be when there is no extra cost tied to upgrading LMG's

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2015, 00:35 AMProBro

Why do Allies have to pay for sub par grenades compared to Axis? Some would say that Axis pay for them as well, but this is a nonsensical argument, because you were already going to

USF, Soviets, and British have to pay manpower that could be used to field more men or build caches and then use fuel which delays tech all the while as Master race OKW Volksgrenadier and Ostheer Grenadier blobs grenade you at will with built in grenade tech.

Solution: Just remove the tech requirement for all factions for grenades, it would help USF early game and encourage better play from Axis if they knew a conscript squad could immediately AT grenade their kubelwagon or a riflemen squad could immediately smoke and advance towards a lone, camping MG42 in the immediate early game.

There really isn't a good reason to lock grenades behind tech, especially since Allied grenades aren't even significantly better.

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2015, 06:16 AM__deleted__

okw have fuel penalty

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2015, 05:45 AMmomo4sho

Or how about we add tech costs for at least grenadier lmgs, volks shrecks ( MAYBE), instead? So there is at least a thought process behind them like teching molotovs, grenades, BARs rather than the brainless upgrades they actually are?

Why do Axis get essentially " free " upgrades like these when the A

It really makes no sense to me. Makes doctrines like CAS stronger than they need to be when there is no extra cost tied to upgrading LMG's

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2015, 06:47 AMFiresparks

the wehr rifle grenade and lmg42 upgrade are essentially tied to the t2.

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2015, 04:22 AMHat

Yet OKW gets the nuke nade without paying?

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2015, 05:45 AMmomo4sho

Or how about we add tech costs for at least grenadier lmgs, volks shrecks ( MAYBE), instead? So there is at least a thought process behind them like teching molotovs, grenades, BARs rather than the brainless upgrades they actually are?

Why do Axis get essentially " free " upgrades like these when the Allied players are paying for them in extra MP/ Fuel.

It really makes no sense to me. Makes doctrines like CAS stronger than they need to be when there is no extra cost tied to upgrading LMG's

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2015, 09:01 AMmomo4sho

That would be fair, if BARs and nades would be unlocked if you teched to LT/CPT. but since we aren't in fairy tale land that isn't a valid counter argument. I really hope you aren't arguing for the sake of arguing in this context.

Next.

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2015, 06:50 AMaaa

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Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2015, 09:03 AMKatitof

Excluding bazooka, side costs and decisions like this should be expanded, not limited.

If anything, axis armies should get tech cost adjustments and get side upgrades introduced.

If there was enough meaningful upgrades, we wouldn't have med armor rush meta as every single army.