A couple USF suggestions..

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2015, 10:33 AMBurts

I think that after oct 29 patch, all USF units will finally be in the spot where they need to be. Except m8 greyhound and M3 ht, but overall USF will be well balanced.

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2015, 10:26 AMMaschinengewehr

Just have a few ideas. Let me know what you think:

-M4A3 Sherman front armour increase to 200, stays at 640 HP. Cost increase by (?) MP and fuel cost to 120.

-M36 Jackson front armour to 180, increase HP to 540 from 480. Alternatively, leave the armour as is but increase HPs to 640.

The Sherman change would give it some breathing space from Axis AT, which can pretty much always pen the front hitbox at far ranges. Some 7.5cm guns would actually have a hard time penetrating Sherman fronts at longer distances, and to do so at such ranges specialised AP rounds would be needed. Leaving the rear armour value the same, as Shermans had rather thin and flat side/rear armour "irl". Panthers and such wouldn't have trouble with penetration however.

The Jackson change would make them more survivable and not so much of a "more glass than cannon" unit. All other USF armour is fairly well balanced imo (well maybe not the M3 HT lol).

So what do you guys think? They're not drastic changes by any means and it would make USF armour a bit more durable.

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2015, 10:51 AMAngryKitten465

Nah let us first see what the Pershing will do for the USF faction. Sherman is fine imo and Jackson has good range, just keep it behind your sherman or other units.

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2015, 10:54 AMMaschinengewehr

Yeah we have to wait for the Pershing. But we can't just base decisions around a new and popular unit. I disagree regarding the Sherman and Jackson. Jackson has the same range as the Jagdpanzer. Guess who wins that fight? Shermans just need a slight armour buff alongside a small cost increase like I mentioned. Then they're fine.

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2015, 11:21 AMBurts

No they don't. Both the sherman and jackson are fine. Sherman got a handy pen buff a few patches ago, and jackson has always been good.

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2015, 10:33 AMBurts

I think that after oct 29 patch, all USF units will finally be in the spot where they need to be. Except m8 greyhound and M3 ht, but overall USF will be well balanced.

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2015, 11:31 AMMaschinengewehr

You'd have to agree that 160 front armour is abysmal though surely? On a tank that historically had decent front armour protection (despite popular belief). Even an increase to 540HP on the Jackson would suffice, although it had thicker effective sloped front armour than a Tiger I lol..

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2015, 16:00 PMLOLw0wwww

Entirely random: But, is it just me...or is the recent release of the OKW flame grenade really showing how terrible, expensive, and ineffective the USF grenades is?

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2015, 10:33 AMBurts

I think that after oct 29 patch, all USF units will finally be in the spot where they need to be. Except m8 greyhound and M3 ht, but overall USF will be well balanced.

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2015, 13:56 PMAngryKitten465

Sherman still better than ost p4

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2015, 19:04 PMdaspoulos

lol 640 hp jacksons. Rip balance.

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2015, 16:19 PMelchino7

OP: tanks are fine



240mm Howitzer barrage: at least make the first shell land accurately
Fix forward observers
IR Pathfinders (just make them 3 man pathfinders)
Recon sweep needs to be -10muni or it's duration to be extended just a little.
Airdropped Combat Group needs to be reworked.
Dodge: cut down popcap to 5 (same as M3). Reduce fuel cost by 5 and mp by 15. Give it a cooldown when selected to account for the 5f cutdown.
Pack Howitzer n M8: just make their barrage more meaningful. In case of Pack Howitzer, just give it at least 2 more shells, reduce a bit RoF.
Not sure how you could tone down Rifle Flamers (maybe a unit on itself)
Fix or balance instant glue repairs
Maybe increase cost of AT gun to 290mp and make AP shells free (making it pen like any other AT gun) but with long cooldown. Focus sight should not be permanent or at least reduce a bit arc (not a nobrainer decision)

Some things that come to my mind.