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LeIG AND Packhowitzer are useless without auto facing

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16 Oct 2015, 13:37 PM
#81
avatar of Bananenheld

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I don't think you were rude, I agree with you. I only let mortars autofire when I am too busy elsewhere. Otherwise I am using barrage for extra rate of fire to saturate at target or use attack ground, third most used is to target in individual unit if it's part of an on the move blob but you do have to be careful to make sure to issue the stop command once they're out of range since you don't want your mortar running after them.

You can Press stop right After the Order to attack. You dont need to time it. The Commune to attack stays but it Chancels the Order to follow then if they leave range
16 Oct 2015, 13:38 PM
#82
avatar of Bananenheld

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You can Press stop right After the Order to attack. You dont need to time it. The ordee to attack stays but it Chancels the Order to follow then if they leave range

Delete wanted to edit but im on smartphone and fucked up. Every button so Small :D
16 Oct 2015, 13:42 PM
#83
avatar of niutudis

Posts: 276

jump backJump back to quoted post16 Oct 2015, 12:30 PMnee
Some thoughts in response to some posts

-Keep auto-facing, but remove suppression in automatic fire;
-Suppression occurs only when you manually barrage a target area; the barrage can be renamed "Suppressive Barrage".

Other ways to improve:

-Reduce turning speed of these weapons so while you may still auto-face, there is slower response to detected units in range;
-Turning speed can be increased as part of veterancy buffs.

This way, you get a unit that can suitably perform by itself, but certainly far less optimal than if you micromanaged it yourself.


I don´t care about the autofacing, but the autofiresuppression is just annoying. It adds nothing to the gameplay, just pure frustration. Doesn´t matter if it autofaces or not.

The "Suppressive Barrage" sounds like a good compromise.
16 Oct 2015, 13:53 PM
#84
avatar of hannibalbarcajr

Posts: 503



I don't because the game is sometimes so stupid and bugged that the leIG/pak howie will walk into the enemy direction to "search" for the marked squad if it disappears in the fog of war.

I like attack ground of barrage is on cool down
16 Oct 2015, 14:10 PM
#85
avatar of demodeus

Posts: 10

jump backJump back to quoted post16 Oct 2015, 12:30 PMnee
Some thoughts in response to some posts

-Keep auto-facing, but remove suppression in automatic fire;
-Suppression occurs only when you manually barrage a target area; the barrage can be renamed "Suppressive Barrage".

Other ways to improve:

-Reduce turning speed of these weapons so while you may still auto-face, there is slower response to detected units in range;
-Turning speed can be increased as part of veterancy buffs.

This way, you get a unit that can suitably perform by itself, but certainly far less optimal than if you micromanaged it yourself.






I agree with both of them, but rather stick with the first.
I Could also imagine to remove auto fire completly, and revert recent nerfs.
okw and usf both kinda lack (besides walking stuka).
It would also diffferate to mortars
That way you wold have a mini ml20 to soften up some reinforced positions
16 Oct 2015, 14:34 PM
#86
avatar of Rekkettenn

Posts: 76

they should revert the chance for the leig the nerf is overkill.
okw just had a tiny chance to compete with allied factions and then comes the nerfhammer immediatly because relic hates germans obviously
16 Oct 2015, 14:36 PM
#87
16 Oct 2015, 16:39 PM
#88
avatar of Sikko
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If you rightclick a enemy unit, your leIG will pursuit into the FOW. Not very helpfull.
16 Oct 2015, 16:56 PM
#89
avatar of Speedkermit

Posts: 28

The pack and leig shouldn't have supression


When suppression gets removed from these units, I'll probably start playing this game once again. No fucking way I am going to bother until this happens.
16 Oct 2015, 22:27 PM
#90
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These units are crutches but I'd rather not see them become useless. Though being useless is better than what we have now, I hate artillery.
16 Oct 2015, 22:45 PM
#91
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Oct 2015, 16:39 PMSikko
If you rightclick a enemy unit, your leIG will pursuit into the FOW. Not very helpfull.

You can avoid that by queuing up the stop command. I do it all the time on any autofiring indirect.
16 Oct 2015, 22:48 PM
#92
avatar of SturmKiwii

Posts: 67


Am I the only one Who constantly rightclicks Enemy squads with mortar and other arty stuff?



No u are not, im doing too.

I click on every squad,just like the mg, click on every squad till it is suppresed :D
16 Oct 2015, 22:56 PM
#93
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No u are not, im doing too.

I click on every squad,just like the mg, click on every squad till it is suppresed :D

I think I can't stop clicking
17 Oct 2015, 04:41 AM
#94
avatar of What Doth Life?!
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Posts: 1664

At first I wanted pinning to go from Pack Howi and ISG... but the more I think about it, taking away auto-rotate but leaving pin actually gives USF something to fight blobs with since the .50 cal is barely a viable unit and the M15 is extremely fragile, and the ISG lets OKW control blobs if they don't want to make a crappy MG34 and don't build their Mechanized HQ.
17 Oct 2015, 05:30 AM
#95
avatar of Leepriest

Posts: 179

The ISG and Pack howie are completely OK now.
Hat
17 Oct 2015, 05:33 AM
#96
avatar of Hat

Posts: 166

The ISG and Pack howie are completely OK now.


They make infantry play against OKW just a pain. The guns automatically rotate pinning the infantry needed to counter the OKW blobs. They block off entire maps, automatically shooting making flanking and sneaking around impossible.

17 Oct 2015, 09:12 AM
#97
avatar of Sikko
Patrion 14

Posts: 113

jump backJump back to quoted post16 Oct 2015, 22:45 PMVuther

You can avoid that by queuing up the stop command. I do it all the time on any autofiring indirect.


I will try that, thank you. It will be very important with the next patch.
17 Oct 2015, 10:27 AM
#98
avatar of Iron Emperor

Posts: 1653

When will relic stop with overnerfing units...
17 Oct 2015, 10:46 AM
#99
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Oct 2015, 09:12 AMSikko


I will try that, thank you. It will be very important with the next patch.

I wroten the exact same thing 2 times already in this thread and Nobody thanked me. Im sad.
17 Oct 2015, 11:30 AM
#100
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