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Stuka Dive Bomb AoE... Has it been buffed indirectly?

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Tatatala
12 Oct 2015, 18:38 PM
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Thanks to Casparitus for the image.


Thanks to A_E for the Video.



So, having been on the end of it, just like in this case, or having an AT gun trying to get out of the way of it once the siren starts (and failing constantly), has its AoE been buffed somehow?

I've been waiting for a moment like this for a long time, due to being too lazy to make video etc.
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Nuclear Arbitor
12 Oct 2015, 23:46 PM
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actually seems like it. even railway isn't that big. might have been a ninja change.
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Omega_Warrior
13 Oct 2015, 04:00 AM
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Yeah.. I don't think it's supposed to be doing that. That's a way bigger AoE then a 240mm or railway.
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Tatatala
13 Oct 2015, 16:26 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Oct 2015, 04:00 AMOmega_Warrior
Yeah.. I don't think it's supposed to be doing that. That's a way bigger AoE then a 240mm or railway.


That's what I thought. Any file diggers able to expand? Relic are you there?
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Burts
13 Oct 2015, 16:35 PM
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It got an absolutely MASSIVE aoe buff last patch. Same with railway arty.
240mm got nerfed pretty bad though.
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Tatatala
13 Oct 2015, 16:59 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Oct 2015, 16:35 PMBurts
It got an absolutely MASSIVE aoe buff last patch. Same with railway arty.
240mm got nerfed pretty bad though.


Was this intentional? I can't remember anything in the notes about it?
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GuardsmanWaffle
13 Oct 2015, 17:01 PM
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Found me a new thing to abuse. Cause CAS wasn't bad enough already. Relic: 1 step forward 3 steps back.
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NinjaWJ
13 Oct 2015, 17:10 PM
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yes the aoe was changed. it was hidden in the long list so you may not have noticed it.
jump backJump back to quoted post31 Mar 2015, 15:19 PMAlexzandvar
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
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Tatatala
13 Oct 2015, 17:15 PM
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What was the thinking behind the change then? What exactly was wrong with it before?
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NinjaWJ
13 Oct 2015, 17:18 PM
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there was no explanation for it. they just increased the aoe
jump backJump back to quoted post31 Mar 2015, 15:19 PMAlexzandvar
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
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RedT3rror
13 Oct 2015, 17:20 PM
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It's a mini nuke since ... already quite some time. CAS just fell out of meta so not many have noticed it's lethality.
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Horasu
13 Oct 2015, 17:22 PM
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That's a little dumb.
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Tatatala
13 Oct 2015, 17:24 PM
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Well, I've trawled back through all the patch notes, and I'm yet to see any mention of SDB AoE change? Ninja, are you sure you're correct?
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RedT3rror
13 Oct 2015, 17:32 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Oct 2015, 17:24 PMTatatala
Well, I've trawled back through all the patch notes, and I'm yet to see any mention of SDB AoE change? Ninja, are you sure you're correct?


I remember Cruzz bringing it up in one of the ninja patch notes.
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Tatatala
13 Oct 2015, 18:03 PM
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Thanks Red Terror, found it:

jump backJump back to quoted post3 Sep 2015, 11:14 AMCruzz
Added a couple of extra weapons to the changed list:

Sturmtiger aoe distance from 2.5/5/7.5 to 2/4/6, damage far modifier from 0.3 to 0.05 (decent nerf)

Ostheer Fragmentation bombs aoe distance 3/4.5/6 to 3/6/9, mid damage from 0.15 to 0.35 (large buff)

Stuka bomb strike aoe distance from 3.75/5.625/7.5 to 3.75/7.5/11.25, mid damage from 0.15 to 0.35 (large buff)



Why the fuck has Relic done this?
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Robbie_Rotten
14 Oct 2015, 04:27 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Oct 2015, 18:03 PMTatatala
Thanks Red Terror, found it:




Why has Relic done this?


Weird. It could have been buffed because i remember some patch notes about bringing ability AoE's in line with their animation. I know that was the reasoning for railway arty and the AOE decrease to 240mm (or maybe I'm making stuff up?) They could have done the same for the stuka, except the way CAS is complained about in this game they decided to ninja it instead?

The other option is to buff abilities that are easy to dodge to make them worthwhile?

But who knows for sure. I thought it seemed to be destroying buildings a little easier in team games, but CAS really isn't meta anymore so I don't see it very often.
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turbotortoise
14 Oct 2015, 04:44 AM
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comparison film.


From what I can see, it seems to be changed so that damage is dealt within the outter smoke/debris rings.
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Nuclear Arbitor
14 Oct 2015, 05:34 AM
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which means it now needs to either be much more expensive (~~250mun), needs to be easier to dodge (make it take longer to land?) or the AoE needs to go back down.
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Tatatala
14 Oct 2015, 06:12 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Oct 2015, 05:34 AMNuclear Arbitor
which means it now needs to either be much more expensive (~~250mun), needs to be easier to dodge (make it take longer to land?) or the AoE needs to go back down.


Some flares might be nice too...
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JohnnyB
14 Oct 2015, 06:24 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Oct 2015, 06:12 AMTatatala


Some flares might be nice too...


And a large red arrow with "Warning, stuka bomb!" on it pointing at the landing zone, too. Please, Lelic. :S
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