Easy fix to ISG & pack Howitzer

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 02:08 AMVuther

Personally, I'd much prefer good accuracy at the cost of lower AoE. Death to one-shots. Put the blob control elsewhere.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 02:17 AMHon3ynuts

what if they did something along the lines of doubling the fire rate but halving the damage? This would be in addition to removing the supression. There would be less need to reduce accuracy and no complaints of 1 shot full hp squad wipes.

No squad wipes no supression same average damage, it seems like a fair change that can keep the unit viable

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 02:01 AMhannibalbarcajr

I would increase damage AOE a little bit as well since it is supposed to be a blob control method.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 02:14 AMDr. Green Thumb

I think the accuracy is the cause of a lot of the one-shotting. Grouping in Coh2 is still awful so one accurate shot is all you need. I like the idea of more scatter but a little higher area of effect. Tone down the damage a little to spread the damage over the squad. Only chance of one shot wipes are too highly hurt units which is no problem.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 02:15 AMdaspoulos

God, why cant we just all agree to revert the buffs to when they were fine before?

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 02:15 AMdaspoulos

God, why cant we just all agree to revert the buffs to when they were fine before?

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 02:46 AMturbotortoise

Revert... to a degree. I would lock their arc like an MG/ATG and give these things an actual role as an infantry support gun, not a mortar in disguise, because I think for them to be powerful they should be required to have some skill. This would also give more opportunity for the M8 Scott, if people weren't fond of microing an ISG, fine, use the M8. They're vulnerable enough, and arrive at such a time where that is a risk/reward proposition, currently ISG's are a no-brainer.

I wouldn't like an ATG that auto-attacked, and this thing currently shoots incendiary sniper rounds through shot blockers at it's own whim.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 03:59 AMMr. Someguy

I agree with OP, the suppression mechanic is inconsistent with all other light artillery, and is currently breaking the game. I'm not fond of my units being randomly instant-pinned by something 60 units away in the fog anyway. Remove the suppression and it should be fine.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 04:16 AMWhySooSerious

HERE IS AN EASY FIX. Revert Latest Changes done to it. Kappa They were both TOTALLY FINE before Relic buffed them.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 04:24 AMContrivance

Alternative: Make it like it actually was.

Remove it's normal indirect fire and put that into the barrage ability only. Instead it fires directly normally, making it like a crewed version of the short-barreled Pz IV 75mm.

And then suddenly it's an actual infantry support weapon, something you use to knock out machine-guns, troops in buildings, and the occasional light vehicle, but not to unleash terror on half the map.