Jadtiger and isu 152
30 Sep 2015, 11:44 AM
#1
Posts: 721
let both the tanks fire on move both the units are kind of non-existent even in 4v4 becasue a 2 or 3 medium spam just takes care of them for their cost they should be doing wonders,in reality jadtiger atleast sucks hard
30 Sep 2015, 11:49 AM
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what? i admit i haven't seen the ISU in a while but that's because there are easier options and guards have fallen somewhat out of meta, at least in the game modes i play. the ISU is still a very strong vehicle.
the jagd i see every now and then and it is incredibly strong on any open map.
if either vehicle is properly supported (more so the JT because the higher armour necessitates vehicle counters which the JT itself counters) they won't ever die and will inflict a hell of a lot of damage.
the jagd i see every now and then and it is incredibly strong on any open map.
if either vehicle is properly supported (more so the JT because the higher armour necessitates vehicle counters which the JT itself counters) they won't ever die and will inflict a hell of a lot of damage.
30 Sep 2015, 12:03 PM
#3
Posts: 600
To be honest i think theyre both fine where they are.
30 Sep 2015, 12:07 PM
#4
Posts: 7
They are fine, I use JagdTiger myself in 2v2 on open maps vs Brits with great succes, its a churchill killer.
30 Sep 2015, 12:08 PM
#5
Posts: 600
They are fine, I use JagdTiger myself in 2v2 on open maps vs Brits with great succes, its a churchill killer.
its the ONLY churchill killer lol.
30 Sep 2015, 13:41 PM
#6
Posts: 1439
its the ONLY churchill killer lol.
StuG III -cough, cough- it requires some micro though so not for everyone.
30 Sep 2015, 13:42 PM
#7
Posts: 271
They might not be popular, but they are damn fine units.
Look at how well korean army used his supported jp4 against ivan on angoville in the ocf qaulifications.
Look at the ISU usage from korean army against aimstrong on langreskya.
Its not popular due to 'easier' - more popular units, but that does not mean they need to be tweaked, at all.
Mobile AT should die easier, and atm, it does. (Jackons / M10 Wolverine)
You pick a style and you combine everything into one big mess of awesomeness.
Look at how well korean army used his supported jp4 against ivan on angoville in the ocf qaulifications.
Look at the ISU usage from korean army against aimstrong on langreskya.
Its not popular due to 'easier' - more popular units, but that does not mean they need to be tweaked, at all.
Mobile AT should die easier, and atm, it does. (Jackons / M10 Wolverine)
You pick a style and you combine everything into one big mess of awesomeness.
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30 Sep 2015, 13:47 PM
#8
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They're fine, please don't fix something that isn't broken
30 Sep 2015, 14:00 PM
#9
Posts: 954
JT is useless, nice to know.
First off all. Tripwire so gud, 10 ammo for a whole dead squad ? + sight.
Vehicle capture point can win games, blitzkrieg save a tank. Fair Deal i think
30 Sep 2015, 14:06 PM
#10
Posts: 219
The ISU is still a game winner in 1v1 if your opponents lacks a direct counter.
And JT acts as that counter for okw, so I'd say both are fine, if you really really wanted to buff the jt it could get a small mobility increase, but It's not necessary really.
And JT acts as that counter for okw, so I'd say both are fine, if you really really wanted to buff the jt it could get a small mobility increase, but It's not necessary really.
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30 Sep 2015, 14:08 PM
#11
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its the ONLY churchill killer lol.
PAK 43 too, if properly supported.
@Oz
Are you serious or just trolling? The talk is about a unit that actualy kills the churchill not tickles it.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
30 Sep 2015, 15:01 PM
#12
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PAK 43 too, if properly supported.
@Oz
Are you serious or just trolling? The talk is about a unit that actualy kills the churchill not tickles it.
Then Oz is correct. Stug is deadly to Churchills. Try it and see.
ISU 152 needs its concrete piercing shell unbugged. It should be a timed ability like JT.
JT appears to have a bug that when AP rounds are loaded you cannot order unit to attack other units behind walls. It will try to move to obtain LoS to do so. If you let it fire naturally it will still fire through structures.
JT is still a problem in team games, where I don't see a fair counter by allies. Not sure how to fix.
30 Sep 2015, 15:01 PM
#13
Posts: 600
StuG III -cough, cough- it requires some micro though so not for everyone.
Nah, since they lost their effective TWP, and the Pak's is buggy... The Chruchill can just reverses out. Gets repaired comes back.
PAK 43 too, if properly supported.
Sure but good to keep in mind that nearly every brit commander has some insane off-map to hard counter the pak43.
30 Sep 2015, 16:30 PM
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the amount of stupidity..i cant handle it anymore
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30 Sep 2015, 16:47 PM
#15
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It would be p cool if the engine upgrade was a little bit more effective.
With the upgrade it's max speed is 3.6 (normally 3) and rotation rate is 14.4 (normally 12) and it's acceleration is .75 (normally .5).
(Did you know that they recently added code for the Jadgtiger to be able to set up camo on itself similar to the JPIV? Cool stuff, obviously it's not functional yet but camo would be awesome)
With the upgrade it's max speed is 3.6 (normally 3) and rotation rate is 14.4 (normally 12) and it's acceleration is .75 (normally .5).
(Did you know that they recently added code for the Jadgtiger to be able to set up camo on itself similar to the JPIV? Cool stuff, obviously it's not functional yet but camo would be awesome)
30 Sep 2015, 16:58 PM
#16
Posts: 1439
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PAK 43 too, if properly supported.
@Oz
Are you serious or just trolling? The talk is about a unit that actualy kills the churchill not tickles it.
I'm serious but like I said it's not for everyone.
30 Sep 2015, 17:32 PM
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(Did you know that they recently added code for the Jadgtiger to be able to set up camo on itself similar to the JPIV? Cool stuff, obviously it's not functional yet but camo would be awesome)
Sometimes your imagination scares me Alex.
30 Sep 2015, 17:39 PM
#18
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its the ONLY churchill killer lol.
Ever tried placing a mine and 2 AT`s? with 1 Stug supporting?
Not a single Churchill can get through that
30 Sep 2015, 17:45 PM
#19
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(Did you know that they recently added code for the Jadgtiger to be able to set up camo on itself similar to the JPIV? Cool stuff, obviously it's not functional yet but camo would be awesome)
Vanishing camo in its current state on the Jagd Tiger would not be cool at all. You finally get a good surround or flank and the toggle on and off just screws you over in trying to kill it.
Tank camo needs to work like the sniper camo and have a cool down.
30 Sep 2015, 17:47 PM
#20
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(Did you know that they recently added code for the Jadgtiger to be able to set up camo on itself similar to the JPIV? Cool stuff, obviously it's not functional yet but camo would be awesome)
imagine a JT with camo and first strike bonus. That would be OP
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