Brits and Ost late game tech comparison

Jump back to quoted post29 Sep 2015, 09:26 AMKatitof

Because they have just 2 tiers with T4 level tanks locked behind side tech.
You can't really do anything about it at this point.

Jump back to quoted post29 Sep 2015, 10:11 AMFiresparks

the advantages of t4 over t3 are kind of minor. the panzer4, stug, and ostwind are good enough against most allies tank and it's hard justifying the extreme cost to go into t4.

The brummbar, and panther are both hard hitting units but the t3 units are just as efficient.panzerwerfer is really the only reason I would feel compel to go into t4.



to quote the OP, centaur=ostwind,cromwell=pz4,stug=firefly. (and I would rate the stug>firefly atm) 200mp and 50 fuel is a decent research cost for the comet/churchill. it's just the ost t4 being overpriced.

Jump back to quoted post29 Sep 2015, 13:30 PMvasa1719

I think tahy can add new tier or do somthing to pay for unlock tanks like sherman FF, church and comet. I think 5 tanks in 1 tier and 50 fuel to go comet/church its to sheap vs Ostheer and OKW.

Jump back to quoted post29 Sep 2015, 09:43 AMCptEend

Brits don't have a start sniper, it's in T2.

Except the firefly is way costlier and probably less effective.


It's easily the worst handheld in the game, it always misses against a decent player.

The only thing about Brits that I find really OP right now is how stupid strong the centaur is (and the croc perhaps, but that one comes quite late). But after OCF I'm sure that it'll see a nerf soon.

Jump back to quoted post29 Sep 2015, 11:26 AMHighfiveeeee

What a quite obvious rage post.
Before complaining about the OP brits just play a decent amounts of time against them or even better: play as brits (if you own them unlike me).

Most of the stuff you have written is just nonesense. You compare apples and oranges. The Comet is as good because it costs 185 fuel. The sniper is in T2 and so on. The only thing that is op is the centaur atm.

Jump back to quoted post29 Sep 2015, 14:59 PMKatitof

5 tanks in one tier?
Which tier you're talking about?

Because all I can see is cromwell, centaur and firefly.
I wasn't best in school from math, but t me that seems like three instead of 5 with 4th being unlocked by side tech which costs as much as tier.

And no, OKW can get panther well before brits will even think about comet.
Ost T3 and brit T3 arrive at about same time and are equal to each other with the centaur>ostwind exception.
Going for anything above that requires brit field domination, which isn't really possible against either axis faction.

Besides, how many comets or anvil churchills have we seen during the OCF?

Brits don't really have it easier because of the side costs and the attrition, which is by far highest among all armies.

Jump back to quoted post29 Sep 2015, 14:59 PMKatitof

5 tanks in one tier?
Which tier you're talking about?

Because all I can see is cromwell, centaur and firefly.
I wasn't best in school from math, but t me that seems like three instead of 5 with 4th being unlocked by side tech which costs as much as tier.

And no, OKW can get panther well before brits will even think about comet.
Ost T3 and brit T3 arrive at about same time and are equal to each other with the centaur>ostwind exception.
Going for anything above that requires brit field domination, which isn't really possible against either axis faction.

Besides, how many comets or anvil churchills have we seen during the OCF?

Brits don't really have it easier because of the side costs and the attrition, which is by far highest among all armies.

Jump back to quoted post29 Sep 2015, 19:08 PMRobbie_Rotten

Also, to get the first Ostwind requires 40+45+75+100= 260 fuel (assuming you don't build T2)
To get the first Centaur you need 10+110+100= 220 fuel. 40 fuel is easily a 2 minute difference.

Jump back to quoted post29 Sep 2015, 19:30 PMOmega_Warrior

Not really a fair comparison. A ostheer player who rushes a ostwind will have grenades and LMGs for his grens. A brit doing the same won't have grenades or upgrades.

Jump back to quoted post29 Sep 2015, 09:08 AMKatitof

However not a single axis player is accustomed to facing tanks that don't instantly blow up to 2 paks or 3-4 shreckvolks. Fighting against brit armor feels pretty much the same as fighting againt ost armor

Jump back to quoted post29 Sep 2015, 19:30 PMOmega_Warrior

Not really a fair comparison. A ostheer player who rushes a ostwind will have grenades and LMGs for his grens. A brit doing the same won't have grenades or upgrades.

Jump back to quoted post29 Sep 2015, 19:08 PMRobbie_Rotten

Comet requires 185+110+10+50= 355 fuel for a comet rush
Panther requires 80+175= 255 fuel for panther rush.

In the time it takes OKW enough fuel to get a Panther, the brits will have accumulated 380ish fuel.

Also, to get the first Ostwind requires 40+45+75+100= 260 fuel (assuming you don't build T2)
To get the first Centaur you need 10+110+100= 220 fuel. 40 fuel is easily a 2 minute difference.

Most of the time I agree with you, but the numbers don't lie. And while axis typically retains a little more of the map, it isn't common enough to seriously effect the timing of the brit T3.

Watching high level play, the attrition just doesn't seem to be as big of a factor as people are making it out to be.

Jump back to quoted post29 Sep 2015, 20:40 PMLemontree

Yeah but an ostwind even with grens with lmgs is nothing in comparison to centaur.

Jump back to quoted post29 Sep 2015, 21:01 PMFiresparks

a big difference between the OKW and Brit is the fact the OKW get their schreck and grenade as top of the package. The british have to skip all their infantry upgrade in order to rush comet.

The okw merely have to skip one of their truck, and they get the extremely useful incendiary and schreck upgrade as part of the deal.

Jump back to quoted post29 Sep 2015, 21:01 PMFiresparks

a big difference between the OKW and Brit is the fact the OKW get their schreck and grenade as top of the package. The british have to skip all their infantry upgrade in order to rush comet.

The okw merely have to skip one of their truck, and they get the extremely useful incendiary and schreck upgrade as part of the deal.

Jump back to quoted post29 Sep 2015, 19:08 PMRobbie_Rotten

Comet requires 185+110+10+50= 355 fuel for a comet rush
Panther requires 80+175= 255 fuel for panther rush.

In the time it takes OKW enough fuel to get a Panther, the brits will have accumulated 380ish fuel.

Also, to get the first Ostwind requires 40+45+75+100= 260 fuel (assuming you don't build T2)
To get the first Centaur you need 10+110+100= 220 fuel. 40 fuel is easily a 2 minute difference.

Most of the time I agree with you, but the numbers don't lie. And while axis typically retains a little more of the map, it isn't common enough to seriously effect the timing of the brit T3.

Watching high level play, the attrition just doesn't seem to be as big of a factor as people are making it out to be.

Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2015, 03:50 AMThatRabidPotato

Actually Panther rush would require 295 fuel, as you have to deploy either Battlegroup or Mechanized Hq before the Schwerer.
And it's 115 fuel for a Brit to tech T3, not 110.

So it's actually 360 fuel for Brit Comet rush, and 295 fuel for OKW Panther rush. Which, taking the fuel penalty into account, is... about even I should think.