[USF] [1VS1] [Riflemen blobbing]

• They are supposed to be good at the earlier stages of a match (which they already were so, oliberating grens, volks and in some scases even sturms) and medicore at the later phases. But after the recent patch you don't need to worry about their late game performance so building 4, 5 units does not have any drawbacks or risk. You will own the whole map and get enough fuel to build your fast light vehicles and start the abuse. And when grouped together there is no effective way of holding them off. 1vs1 you need to send your baseline inf to cap and gather resources, which is not possible when you know it's a losing engagement. With the bar buffs they are just downright silly.
  
  

• Increase their moving penalty in order to discourage blob A-moving :
  
• Moving accuracy multiplier could be changed from 0.6 to 0.42
  
• Moving cooldown multiplier could be changed from 1.25 to 1.6
  
  
  
• General stats changes to bring them closer to other starting inf:
  Range distance could be changed from 3/16/35 to 5/12/35
  Far accuracy could be changed from 0.5175 to 0.4175
  
  
• More starting options and alternative build orders :
  Add the m2 60mm Morty to HQ
  Add the WC jeep to HQ
  Move the .50Cal to HQ
  
  
  

Jump back to quoted post14 Sep 2015, 21:48 PMDeC

This will be my last post on this forum so be gentle folks, discuss the subject and remain calm.

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2015, 00:11 AMTobis

Why do they have to be mediocre late game?
They are the most expensive base starting infantry in the game, why can't they be good late game too?

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2015, 00:14 AMDeC

Because you can't have your cake and eat it too, asymetrical balance.

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2015, 00:18 AMBasilone

makes a dumb thread every 30 minutes for the past few days

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2015, 00:19 AMTobis

How does this mean that riflemen should be weak late game?

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2015, 00:23 AMDeC

This would be my last topic for a long time to come as I have been warned by a mod and so that trend won't continue, cheers.

They don't have to sweep the floor from the start of a match and down to the last VP.

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2015, 00:23 AMDeC

They don't have to sweep the floor from the start of a match and down to the last VP.

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2015, 00:29 AMcomm_ash

Use a pair of mg42s, with one slightly behind and to the side of the other. For extra results use an mg bunker.

Rifles are still the same as they were in the early and mid game. They are more survivable in the lategame, but the same counters (mg42, ostwind, new panzerwerfer, etc.) All work against them.

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2015, 00:20 AMNapalm

I actually agree with OP on this one. The new Vet 3 Rifles are insane to deal with and remind me of the old vet 5 volks.



This was after using direct fire against them the entire game via the newly nerfed mortar.