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Ive personally have played on both ends of the spectrum,
9/10 when facing a tiger ace it would run over a mine or get marked and bursted,
This patch ive killed 3 of them in a single match with dual tulips.
Loosing your whole army to TA means you needed to prepare for it better.
I can't speak for 1's but in any team setting its a trash teir pick now.
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So the sole and only reason you ever called in a Tiger Ace was TWP? Not the fact that it only costs manpower, has blitz and smoke, 50 range and more damage out of the gate? No?
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Tiger Ace
Oh god.. a 17! CP tank that has no real advantage (other than a little health now) over its normal counterpart that comes at 13. It stops all fuel income and that doctrine has no good offmap options.
Without TWP tiger ace is now trash, and there is no real incentive to use it over a Tiger I from
Spearhead doctrine. If its only going to be a vet 3 tiger I just give it a fuel cost and remove the resource penalty.. Yay for Homogenization..
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Stug 3 now not really the machine of my choice anymore, not the machine that can halt any large hp tank from the Brits now.
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I will simply lol at anyone expecting such a change to a 2 year old general use infantry.
Equally possible are pershing for USF, IS-3 for soviets or ober nerf for OKW.
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If you think the only difference between the TA and the Tiger is a little more health than you need to go ahead and look at the stats. The RoF differences between this and the Tiger is insane. And the MG is also much better than the Tiger's last time I checked. You also forgot it calls for no fuel, and so can come in even after you field multiple tanks. It also always has smoke and blitz. Couple of really nice advantages, just not outright better than Tiger in every way. If you need offmap then of course you should not be looking to this doc. I still find this commander excellent against USF when played well. I will admit I have removed this commander from my loadouts in larger games because the level of AT has risen sharply by the time it appears and it is too late to change the outcome of battle. Pick your commanders for your playstyle.
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I don't think that twp change will affect stug much, it is still a extremly cost efficient TD.
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it needs to be a good choice.
If you are that behind TA comes out too late to be your comeback king anymore.
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Care to explain why? There are plenty of units in the game from all factions are are either completely useless or severely limited and situational. TA is very situational sure, but so what? It is a cheesy unit behind a commander, not everything can be meta. Relic has made purposeful progress away from the heavy tank meta, with the design goal of promoting combined arms and smaller vehicle play.
Like Imagelessbean said, TA has its uses. Just don't expect to be a good choice in all cases.
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Im not saying it needs to be go to 100% of the time im saying it needs to be worth it to tank your eco.
And a vet 3 tiger is not worth tanking your eco.
Remove the eco penalty and add a 230 fuel cost to it hell make it 280 its fine then. Its a real choice then commander wise not straight worse then spearhead.
(note that I'm not against).
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Because they will still be OP like fuck, that is why.
Why would anyone play OKW after 17th patch you should ask, if you would drop your incoherrent and stupid bias.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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And a vet 3 tiger is not worth tanking your eco.
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No early game,much weaker mid game, still HUGE attrition, churchills and comet nerfed, hammer and anvil choices nerfed hard.
Yea, brits will be op as fuck, tooth fairy exists and Kluge doesn't abuse mod powers on twitch
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