Give Panzergrenadiers Toggle Panzerschreks Ability

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2015, 14:14 PMnewvan

Voted - no, it will encourage anti everything blob, like rangers in Ardens, especially with CAS. You just press one button to change its role, its poor gameplay and bad for balance for any type of unit. In current situation you must choose what you need at the field - good mid range AI, or trade it for best infantry based AT in the game, its quite fair.

Prioritize Vehicles - is a good idea.

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2015, 19:26 PMPanzerschützen

Well, I didn't know there were many guys happy with current meta of lmgrenadiers. I accept that it'd be a huge buff to Panzergrens but applying this option to all Bazooka,PIAT,PTRS equipped infantry would be wonderful.

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2015, 20:43 PMcomm_ash

We want more thinking in strategy games, not less.

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2015, 20:43 PMcomm_ash

The whole idea behind upgrades is that they are supposed to force the player to make decisions.

Do I want bazookas for more AT the expense of my squad's AI firepower?

Do I want smgs for more close range firepower at the expense of other ranges?

The problem in coh2 is that not enough upgrades have enough drawbacks. G43s and lmgs will always increase the dps of the squad at all ranges, which makes them brainless. There is literally no reason not to upgrade lmgs, besides opportunity costs (which all abilities and upgrades have).

The real issue is that coh2 is not consistent on forcing player choice. Lmgs have no drawback, but smgs will always make a squad lose firepower at other ranges. Anti-tank issues are currently one of the well designed upgrades that force you to make a choice between a great AI squad and a great AT squad. As a result, we artifical feel that some upgrades are underperforming in comparison to the more brainless ones.

We want more thinking in strategy games, not less.

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2015, 21:01 PMFiresparks

given the allies' dominance of light vehicle, the ost are basically forced into getting the panzergrenadier+schreck.

At this point it's more about not gimping the ost with a munition and a manpower heavy unit.

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2015, 21:14 PMcomm_ash

It's not really true though. You have access to paks and 222's for munition free at, and tellers for munition at. Panzergrenadier shrecks are just icing on the cake.

Look at it this way, usf, ukf, and soviets can deal with early flack tracks, luchs, and pumas with AT guns. Shrecks are not necessities. They are luxury support weapons that are quite situational.

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2015, 21:55 PMPanzerErotica

Just make the holster action have some activation timer so you can´t just switch in and out every other second in the heat of battle. This way you can catch them panzergrenadiers pants down just like you could with sherman or isu152 using wrong type of ammo.

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2015, 20:43 PMcomm_ash

The whole idea behind upgrades is that they are supposed to force the player to make decisions.

Do I want bazookas for more AT the expense of my squad's AI firepower?

Do I want smgs for more close range firepower at the expense of other ranges?

The problem in coh2 is that not enough upgrades have enough drawbacks. G43s and lmgs will always increase the dps of the squad at all ranges, which makes them brainless. There is literally no reason not to upgrade lmgs, besides opportunity costs (which all abilities and upgrades have).

The real issue is that coh2 is not consistent on forcing player choice. Lmgs have no drawback, but smgs will always make a squad lose firepower at other ranges. Anti-tank issues are currently one of the well designed upgrades that force you to make a choice between a great AI squad and a great AT squad. As a result, we artifical feel that some upgrades are underperforming in comparison to the more brainless ones.

We want more thinking in strategy games, not less.

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2015, 00:21 AMOmega_Warrior

There would be sooo much Pgren spam. It's not happening. It would be like volk spam on steroids.

Toggle AT function can only work on a unit that's expensive and can't be easily accumulated. Like airborne, obers, and commandos.