Balance Preview Update 09/04/2015

Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2015, 18:55 PMAlexzandvar

Honestly the shear fact that Ostheer has no 60 range tank destroyer is a good reason for the Tiger I to have 45 range, but it shouldn't get more range at Vet 2 like it currently does (which would give the IS2 an advantage over it as Vet 2). They should replace the Tiger I's vet 2 with a survability buff.

Flanking a Tiger isn't really necessary, since all the regular TD's and AT guns have a good chance of penetrating it's frontal armor.

Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2015, 04:59 AMCyanara

Came here to understand MG42 stat revert. Was not disappointed. A+++.

Any chance at getting "snap to cover" distance looked at? I feel like the current large distance was(perhaps unintentionally) introduced when the number of spots behind cover was (thankfully) increased. It consistently frustrates my micro in every game though with the current values. Edit: Actually, I guess that's not really related to balance at all, which seems to be the focus of this thing.

Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2015, 19:22 PMOmega_Warrior

If you want a 50 range tank killer, that is what the panther is for.

They also have a cheap 50 range TD

a 70 range heavy tank destroyer

and a 70 range AT gun

Not to mention the best infantry AT in the game.

There is no reason to inflate the tiger to deal with absolutely everything.

The pen buff alone makes it better then the IS-2 in every way despite also being cheaper.

Not to mention the recent pop cost buff.

Buffing it's range even on top of that is just ridiculous and only serves to reduce it's few disadvantages.

I don't want to go back to players building Tigers every single game.

Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2015, 18:55 PMJohnnyShaun

Don't try to make believe us you play soviet more than 1 time/2 months, or hide your playercard.

Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2015, 07:54 AMJaedrik

Fortunately, AT vs Tiger is not a 100:0 matchup. It wasn't even so before. The world of RPS, whose hard counters are absolute, binary, and do not depend on complex mechanical interactions and micro, is not an appropriate analogy.

Jump back to quoted post6 Sep 2015, 12:26 PMStafkeh

Is this working as intended? Obersoldaten can supress enemy infantry.

Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2015, 20:43 PMAce of Swords

Nice changes, the tiger one is especially welcome, it was incredibly outclassed by p4s and other heavy tanks.

Brace nerf was needed but might be too much, I think 45-60 seconds would be sufficent.

Jump back to quoted post6 Sep 2015, 15:24 PMGLBZ

urban defence tactics FHQ price...
do not forget about him

Jump back to quoted post6 Sep 2015, 22:11 PMLuGer33

I haven't seen a single person say the 600% increase in cooldown between Brace is a good idea. I do hope Relic reconsiders and goes down to 60 seconds or something more reasonable (if they haven't changed their minds already).

Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2015, 19:21 PMSahinK

Tiger buff is welcomed... But now, will it have 45 to 50 Range on VET 2 or 45 to 55? Vet 0 45 range could be a good addition.... But 55 range after Vet 2 too much compared to other heavies... IS and KT should be looked at at this stage...

Jump back to quoted post7 Sep 2015, 01:35 AMGrumpy

A Tiger with 55 range and only 19 pop cap will be lousy for 1v1 balance, particularly against USF. It will wipe USF at guns and have little to worry about with Jacksons. P47's were already not that great, considering that all you had to do was reverse, but with the recent nerf to P47 range this isn't good.

Jump back to quoted post7 Sep 2015, 01:35 AMGrumpy

A Tiger with 55 range and only 19 pop cap will be lousy for 1v1 balance, particularly against USF. It will wipe USF at guns and have little to worry about with Jacksons. P47's were already not that great, considering that all you had to do was reverse, but with the recent nerf to P47 range this isn't good.